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« on: May 31, 2006, 05:33:58 PM »
Hi,
I've been playing alot of heads-up 1 on 1 games recently on pjokerstars and am finding them rather tasty - I haven't really played that much HU before and have no idea what to expect in terms of a decent win rate or ROI.

can anyone advise what figures a decent player can expect to hit please.?

many thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2006, 05:37:18 PM »
There was a discussion a while back
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=10025.0
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2006, 05:52:30 PM »
Quote from: Junior on May 31, 2006, 05:33:58 PM
Hi,
I've been playing alot of heads-up 1 on 1 games recently on pjokerstars and am finding them rather tasty - I haven't really played that much HU before and have no idea what to expect in terms of a decent win rate or ROI.

can anyone advise what figures a decent player can expect to hit please.?

many thanks.


he is fishing for a place on the team Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2006, 05:53:57 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2006, 05:54:20 PM »
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=10276.0

This thread may help.
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2006, 05:54:49 PM »
Quote from: Colchester Kev on May 31, 2006, 05:52:30 PM
Quote from: Junior on May 31, 2006, 05:33:58 PM
Hi,
I've been playing alot of heads-up 1 on 1 games recently on pjokerstars and am finding them rather tasty - I haven't really played that much HU before and have no idea what to expect in terms of a decent win rate or ROI.

can anyone advise what figures a decent player can expect to hit please.?

many thanks.


he is fishing for a place on the team Cheesy

well noticed m8!
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2006, 05:56:57 PM »
what team? - does kev have a team?

anyway, thanks Dewi but that thread although useful doesn't really state what a reasonable expected win rate would be - or ROI?


also, how do you calculate ROI?
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2006, 06:04:32 PM »
use pokercharts.com it does everything for you
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2006, 06:08:44 PM »
Quote from: Junior on May 31, 2006, 05:56:57 PM
what team? - does kev have a team?

anyway, thanks Dewi but that thread although useful doesn't really state what a reasonable expected win rate would be - or ROI?


also, how do you calculate ROI?

calculate ur ROI.....

Take the total prizes won, divide buy total buyins. That then gives you your ROI.

As for the ROI in HU games....mine is 17%
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2006, 06:09:54 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on May 31, 2006, 06:08:44 PM
Quote from: Junior on May 31, 2006, 05:56:57 PM
what team? - does kev have a team?

anyway, thanks Dewi but that thread although useful doesn't really state what a reasonable expected win rate would be - or ROI?


also, how do you calculate ROI?

calculate ur ROI.....

Take the total prizes won, divide buy total buyins. That then gives you your ROI.

As for the ROI in HU games....mine is 17%



You missed out a decimal m8................
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2006, 10:51:20 AM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on May 31, 2006, 06:08:44 PM
Quote from: Junior on May 31, 2006, 05:56:57 PM
what team? - does kev have a team?

anyway, thanks Dewi but that thread although useful doesn't really state what a reasonable expected win rate would be - or ROI?


also, how do you calculate ROI?

calculate ur ROI.....

Take the total prizes won, divide buy total buyins. That then gives you your ROI.

As for the ROI in HU games....mine is 17%


thanks fishy.
I have some work to do then - this year at all levels, mine is just 15% :-(.  I have played at several levels though up to $200's, and they are harder the higher the buy-in.  I have settled on the Stars $50's and am currently running at an ROI of 21% with a win rate of 67% - (from 55 matches)

Baron - that thread was useful to the point where everyone started to attack Tikay's HU abilities!, i know he's a fish but got that man needs a break :-) - cheers.
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2006, 11:16:48 AM »
Junior if you want to get your win ratio up try ladbrokes- the heads up games there are a lot easier (even at the 200/300 level) although you may have to wait a few minutes to get a game going. I play mostly heads up on there every day and it is a lot easier than grinding it out on the cash tables.
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2006, 11:32:02 AM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on May 31, 2006, 06:08:44 PM

calculate ur ROI.....

Take the total prizes won, divide buy total buyins. That then gives you your ROI.

As for the ROI in HU games....mine is 17%


Going by Flushy's calculations, where ROI is total prizes/total buy-ins, and his claim that the figure gives him 17%. He has lost 83% of all monies staked.  Cheesy

That's quite some lose rate, he may be better off playing blackjack with his eyes shut.
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2006, 11:41:10 AM »
Its at this point where the pedant within me just has to point out that...

 ROI% = (Profit/buy-ins) x 100

You can use.....

 ROI% = (prizes/buy-ins) x 100

.... but then you have to subtract 100 afterwards.
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2006, 11:48:46 AM »
Quote from: thetank on June 01, 2006, 11:41:10 AM
Its at this point where the pedant within me just has to point out that...

 ROI% = (Profit/buy-ins) x 100

You can use.....

 ROI% = (prizes/buy-ins) x 100

.... but then you have to subtract 100 afterwards.


thanks tank - i had figured out what flushy meant. :-)

Ariston - thanks for the tip, I may have to get on laddies then! - remember its still 1-0 to me :-)  - maybe a rematch is in order!
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