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« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2006, 12:10:11 PM »

you say you went out to a bad beat but if im correct you went all in with 2 pair and got called by a full house, not really a bad beat is it?

20-1 not enough?
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« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2006, 01:21:09 PM »

I believe it was a good and pretty obvious fold. The board was extremly dangerous and you had only committed 5,000 to the pot and his bet was for another 25,000.

I think he may have had a  two spades on the big blind, and he may have made a poor call pre flop. He may have hoped you had hit a flush or Aces or Kings so you would call. He was not scared that you had a  because you checked the turn. If it was a bluff, then fair play to him, he made a massive overbet and will lose a lot of money in the long run playing like this.

BUT you won't, its a fold everytime.
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« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2006, 02:51:14 PM »

it looks like honbi sensed your weakness on the turn when you checked the 2 Queens and pushed all in knowing that you didnt have a Queen and that you would fold. He most probably had another pair in his hand or maybe an 8
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« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2006, 03:52:39 PM »

Your flop bet looks like a bet with AK that missed (2/3rd pot etc.) however this can also be used to portray this with either a set or a pair, so not so concrete in what it says if the player doing it has some game.

If you do have the Q, then checking after the turn is fine here and not weak at all imo. Checking on the turn makes everyone who thinks that "checking here means weakness", pay you off on river. Its a very standard play to bet flop with top pair, check the turn with a set and then bet the river, when i see this type of play, i am quick to make notes on their strength and not their weakness.

Checking the turn can be seen as very good or very weak play, throw a blanket over these kind of moves and label them all as weak and you will be paying off big hands on the river regularly.
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« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2006, 08:02:47 PM »

Exactly the point Lee. I check ANY hand on the turn there (except maybe a flushdraw) in order to induce a bet on the river, if i had AQ it would have been nice!
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