Whats your move?

[bobby1]

7 handed MTT 90k in chips at the table and nice 30 minute levels.

I have 12k with blinds 400 800 and raise to 2400 with JJ in second position. The BB who is fairly tight and has 10.4k including big blind looks like he is contemplating a call but then reraises me 4k, leaving himself 4k behind.

Whats your move?

[Gamblor21]

seems like a want action bet bobby... i pass with your chips! more or less chips i call.

[bobby1]

Anyone else any thoughts?

This was a live game and this hand prompted much discussion.

Thanks

[bolt pp]

I fold here.

7 handed he may have ak, but your going in a 3-4% jolly at best or a massive rag.

Its easy to get away from with your stack especially against a tight player thats virtually commiting his stack.

[Royal Flush]

I am shipping it in....gamboooooool

[Horneris]

You should fold here and wait for a better position. At first i read this wrong and thought youd said you had 90k in chips, but that was for the enitire table.

The logic move has to be to fold and wait for a better spot. The best you could dget was for him to hold AK or AQ and even then you're not a huge favourite, and he is much more likely to hold AA, KK or QQ

[SupaMonkey]

I would have thought A-K/A-Q would have moved in preflop.

[marcro]

After this raise his next move is going to be all in no matter what you do.  It sounds like he wanted extra action.  You can fold and still have enough chips to play.  In the best scenario, you are most likely facing two overcards - time to make an emotional decision to race and shove all your chips in or fold.  Logic says fold.

[Junior Senior]

fold.
he must be putting you on something decent with you raising from 2nd position and his micro reraise suggests he wants to give you chance to push and thus hang yourself. - he aint making that move with 10-10 is he?! - and with AK i reckon he pushes and hopes here.

fold but make sure you stare at him like he killed a relative and you want vengance! :-)

[stallyon]

push all-in. he may be on a total bluff while still leaving himself some chips to play with in case you come over him

[bobby1]

Thanks for the replies guys.

IF I told you the other guy had AJ what would you think of his play and how do you think he saw the hand?

[bolt pp]

Then he's played it horribly IMO.

unless he thinks hes got a massive tell on you!

[Junior Senior]

then you have been at-it all comp and he wants to reraise for info - finding out whether you actually have a hand or not. - against an at-it merchant who will lay down against resistance then its not a bad play really, although i would want more chips to make this play

[marcro]

Thanks for the replies guys.

IF I told you the other guy had AJ what would you think of his play and how do you think he saw the hand?

He was thinking any two cards can win, I will spike an A on the river and say "good game fella!"

[bobby1]

then you have been at-it all comp and he wants to reraise for info - finding out whether you actually have a hand or not. - against an at-it merchant who will lay down against resistance then its not a bad play really, although i would want more chips to make this play

wow....you werent even there and you can still read me. 

It was a comp with mates and the guy doing the reraising then took great delight in taking the ****. I couldnt see what hand he would want to reraise with that he would leave 4k behind from a stack of 10k. I laid down my hand which I suppose means its a very good bet but I am not sure his reasoning was' i will min raise here and get him to pass'.

After a good discussion it became clear it was a 'I have two big cards so I will raise here' and as an average player he made imho a play so poor it became great.