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thetank
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Trying to steal the initiative with a mini flop bet.
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June 20, 2006, 08:25:35 AM »
First hand of a $50 + $5 sit n go on Tribecca
Everyone has exactly 2,000 chips
Teenageriot is the dealer.
BRClements posted small blind.
Mr. Buck posted big blind.
Game [1] started with 9 players.
[Jun 19 03:38:03] : Dealing Hole Cards.
Seat 1 : BlondeTank has
g671980 called 40 and raised 80
BlondeTank called 120 and raised 320
fld424 folded.
cortg70 folded.
sturges10 folded.
gigafish folded.
Teenageriot folded.
BRClements folded.
Mr. Buck folded.
g671980 called 320
Dealing flop.
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g671980 bet 40
So there's 940 in the pot and he's just bet 40 into me.
How does one proceed from here?
P.S. If anyone's wondering why all my threads on the hand analysis board seem to involve AA, it's because that's the only hand I ever play.
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Horneris
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Re: Trying to steal the initiative with a mini flop bet.
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June 20, 2006, 09:14:21 AM »
hmm. This type of bet can sometimes be described as a "please don't raise me bet" or more commonly a "blocker bet". He wants you to be confused and just call so he can see the next card, which may help him.
I think that with so much already in the pot and a not dangerous but not entirely safe board you should raise to about 300 to see if he really means business.
Put it this way, you're not going to fold and you shouldnt be afraid of him having a 3, as he called your pre flop raise and he also wouldn't have raised 40.
I think if you re raise a real amount, with the post size in context, he folds.
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June 20, 2006, 12:05:33 PM »
why not feign weakness by going all in, never know
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Re: Trying to steal the initiative with a mini flop bet.
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June 20, 2006, 12:12:20 PM »
Quote from: Dewi_cool on June 20, 2006, 12:05:33 PM
why not feign weakness by going all in, never know
Because you are likely to be behind if called. I tend to bet rediculously low when i have monster hands.
Reraise to see if he likes his hand is my line.
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Re: Trying to steal the initiative with a mini flop bet.
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June 20, 2006, 12:18:36 PM »
You are reading too much into his Bet of 40.
He almost certanily mis-clicked - it's easy to do on Tribeca.
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June 20, 2006, 12:18:51 PM »
surely though the only hand he's likely to be ahead with here is 99, and if he has hit the FH he would have checked with a view to re raise, I still think Tank is ahead and go all in hoping hes got top pair.
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The very last hand of the night goes to Dewi James, who finds ACES and talks Raymond O’Mahoney into calling his all-in preflop bet of 15k. “If I had AQ, I’d call!” says Dewi. Raymond calls holding pocket 66’s.
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Re: Trying to steal the initiative with a mini flop bet.
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June 20, 2006, 12:28:55 PM »
you see this bet on ladbrokes all the time. he probably has AK or something like that. I would raise to around 250 - 350 here..
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Re: Trying to steal the initiative with a mini flop bet.
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June 20, 2006, 12:30:00 PM »
Owing to his raise UTG and calling a re-raise, I really didn't think a 3 was likely.
The only hand I thought that could possibly beat me was 9's full. All I was concerned about was how to get all the chips in the pot.
His most likely holdings were highish pocket pairs I thought. A club or overcard to his pair landing on a future street might have inhibited my chance of getting all the chips in.
In the first hand in a sit n go, players can be a little looser than normal.
So I went with Dewi's idea, all-in to look like I was buying the pot.
What better way to follow a scanty mini-bet than with a scanty over-bet.
I probably wouldn't have were it not the very first hand.
I got my call, surprisingly quickly.
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Re: Trying to steal the initiative with a mini flop bet.
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June 20, 2006, 12:30:57 PM »
When i play touneys its usually at the £10 level(unless i'm slaughtered then its £100+)
These players make these under bets all the time after pre flop action, i genuinly believe that they think thier going to take down a pot of 480 for example with a minimum bet of 30 or something, and i see it sometimes work!!!
Its just a continuation of their overall weak play.
Its the auto buttons that compell them to make these ludicrous underbets against the initial raiser.
It gets on my nerves when i'm drawing after the flop and they make a minimum bet against the raiser when everyone on the table can see that the raiser has bet every flop he's raised pre flop, it makes it more expensive on therfore not viable to call because the re raise is larger, and of course the idiot instantly folds to the re raise.
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Re: Trying to steal the initiative with a mini flop bet.
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June 20, 2006, 12:34:49 PM »
Ah gotta love tribeca!
The all in is ok, i am guessing he has 44?
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Re: Trying to steal the initiative with a mini flop bet.
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June 20, 2006, 12:36:19 PM »
Even more surprised when I saw his hand.
That's spades, not clubs. This chap needs runner runner trips and has just called for more than 3/4 of his stack!
Turn 7
River K
My two pairs Aces and Treys won the pot.
I'll fess up that there was a brief moment when I thought I'd been bad burgled.
Anyway, I hope he feels he got his $55 dollars worth.
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Re: Trying to steal the initiative with a mini flop bet.
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Quote from: Royal Flush on June 20, 2006, 12:34:49 PM
Ah gotta love tribeca!
Ooooooooooooooh Yeah
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Re: Trying to steal the initiative with a mini flop bet.
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June 27, 2006, 08:34:47 AM »
Quote from: thetank on June 20, 2006, 12:36:19 PM
Even more surprised when I saw his hand.
That's spades, not clubs. This chap needs runner runner trips and has just called for more than 3/4 of his stack!
Turn 7
River K
My two pairs Aces and Treys won the pot.
I'll fess up that there was a brief moment when I thought I'd been bad burgled.
Anyway, I hope he feels he got his $55 dollars worth.
Why am I batting my brains out on pokerstars at the 10 sit n go, when people like this are playing 55 dollar on another site? And the guy with the K7 is terrible too
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Re: Trying to steal the initiative with a mini flop bet.
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June 27, 2006, 10:28:37 AM »
Very good Canuck
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Re: Trying to steal the initiative with a mini flop bet.
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June 27, 2006, 11:26:20 AM »
Before I got to the bit you said his cards I guessed he had AQ of clubs.
Am I glad you said he had K7 of spades before I made an idiot of myself and posted that he had AQ of clubs!
Wow, I nearly came across as a complete nutter!
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