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Question: What was the main reason for there Exit?
Rooney being Sent off - 11 (28.2%)
Carragher Jumping the gun with Penalty? - 5 (12.8%)
Just that England have been shown up for being trollop - 17 (43.6%)
or "Whit you on about Dave, they shouldnt have even qualified" - 6 (15.4%)
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« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2006, 10:22:25 PM »

England lost because of Svenss negative tactics and the fact they werent good enough when it mattered.

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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2006, 10:43:59 PM »

I honestly thought tonights performance was one of the best we've seen under Svens leadership and I'm almost saddened to see him go, but that could be more nervous of the future.

I want some of whatever it is you've been drinking.
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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2006, 10:53:09 PM »

I honestly thought tonights performance was one of the best we've seen under Svens leadership and I'm almost saddened to see him go, but that could be more nervous of the future.

I want some of whatever it is you've been drinking.

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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2006, 11:00:50 PM »

1. Sending Rooney off?  Straight Red? don't think so matey.  In fact, until Ronaldo got involved the ref only gave a free kick


I don't think the ref was sending off Rooney till Ronaldo got involved and that annoyed me I said that on another thread buy Rooney lifted his hands and shoved the opponent that is a straight red card.

I dont see how it cant be?
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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2006, 11:05:10 PM »

You disagree? 

We were inept in the first half playing a formation that totally isolated our sole striker and which the team were clearly uncomfortable with.

We improved when Beckham went off injured and was replaced by Lennon.  Without the injury this substitution would never have occurred.

The only time through the entire tournament that we started to play like a team was after Rooney was sent off.  A sense of injustice among the players did more for team performance than the manager could achieve and we were aided to some extent by Scolari playing without a striker for much of the second half.

If that is one of the best performances that Eriksson 'achieved' then I don't ever want to be reminded of the worst.

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« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2006, 11:06:11 PM »

1. Sending Rooney off?  Straight Red? don't think so matey.  In fact, until Ronaldo got involved the ref only gave a free kick


I don't think the ref was sending off Rooney till Ronaldo got involved and that annoyed me I said that on another thread buy Rooney lifted his hands and shoved the opponent that is a straight red card.

I dont see how it cant be?

If this is the case then surely we'd see a red card for practically every corner ever taken considering some of the stuff that goes on when jostling for position?

That push was never a red IMO. If the ref saw the stamp then fair enough.
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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2006, 11:10:57 PM »

I don't see why it annoyed you.  Rooney hadn't done much wrong till Ronaldo got involved.  A player goading the ref to take further action is bad, there's no need for it, the ref had a grip on the game.
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2006, 02:25:02 AM »

That game was always going to penalties, as predicted by everyone who has ever watched footballl. I would, to warrent my unbelieveably huge and grotest salary had mr i cant controll catch or pass a ball James studying every penalty ever by Portugul and also in world cups to make his size work for us... as with Germany/argentina last night we were beaten before the first kick... thou at the time I thought Hugo had done the first think worth 8.5 million.....
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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2006, 11:18:42 AM »

1. Sending Rooney off?  Straight Red? don't think so matey.  In fact, until Ronaldo got involved the ref only gave a free kick
2. Dunno, I assumed he did.  Can't comment untill I resee it.

did you watch the replay, he blatantly stamped on the guys Balls!
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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2006, 11:30:39 AM »

In all the news reports that I have seen today.  None of them have mentioned Erickson taking Walcott in the first place or Rooney being sent off as possible reasons for their loss.   The reporters keep saying  " Our penalty skills just aren't good enough".  Surely if they had a decent reserve striker and a striker that doesn't get himself sent off,  there would be no need to think about shooting penalties?
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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2006, 11:33:55 AM »

  Rooney hadn't done much wrong till Ronaldo got involved. 

jesus are folk blind...ill reiterate

He stamped on the guys balls!
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