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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2006, 11:40:16 AM »

The chap pleaded guilty to driving dangerously AFTER the girl was killed, he was not sentenced, or charged, with death by dangerous driving, if he had he would have been given years.

So would this have been some kind of "plea-bargain" wherby he pleads guilty to the lesser offence ?

Or could he still be charged with causing death by dangerous driving ?
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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2006, 11:44:24 AM »

Plea bargins don't work that way. You have to have been charged with a higher offence for it to be dropped Smiley

Robert says he was never charged with it in the first place, so the police either themselves or under direction from the CPS only found cause to charge him for dangerous driving, which he plead to apparently
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2006, 11:45:47 AM »

presumably there is no evidence that he was driving dangerously at the time of the accident
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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2006, 12:30:55 PM »

Perhaps he wasn't....

Does the Daily Mail have a forum?
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2006, 01:00:10 PM »

Perhaps he wasn't....

Does the Daily Mail have a forum?

Well if I realised that this came from the Daily Mail which imo is the lowest form of rabble-rousing gutter press

I may well have sought out a second opinion before taking their report seriously.

They are more than capable of spinning the facts to suit their own ends.
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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2006, 01:10:06 PM »

Perhaps he wasn't....

Does the Daily Mail have a forum?

yes - they say hanging isn't good enough
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« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2006, 01:19:43 PM »

I don't know where the initial report came from.

I just thought the knee-jerk reactions, assumptions and insinuations displayed in this thread might feel more at home in a Daily Mail forum.

I don't wish belittle anyone who has had personal experiences of any kind of injustice. I just think everyone should be more careful before jumping to conclusions.
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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2006, 01:26:36 PM »

I don't know where the initial report came from.

South East News according to first post.  I read about it yesterday in the Metro (day after this thread was started) and it was quite simply reported in there that the guy had been charged with dangerous driving after the accident (and presumably failing to stop at the scene of the accident although I can't remember).

There was no indication that the accident was his fault, which leads me to the conclusion that he knocked this girl over, panicked, drove off, was understandably driving dangerously as he'd just knocked someone over, got home and got off his face.  If that's the case, then I think the punishment was a fair one.
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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2006, 01:30:54 PM »

Yep - failure to stop and report, dangerous driving and possession of drugs:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/5141742.stm
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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2006, 02:48:01 PM »

I don't know where the initial report came from.

I just thought the knee-jerk reactions, assumptions and insinuations displayed in this thread might feel more at home in a Daily Mail forum.

I don't wish belittle anyone who has had personal experiences of any kind of injustice. I just think everyone should be more careful before jumping to conclusions.

good point, tactfully made.
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« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2006, 02:59:10 PM »

Yay people have seen sense in this thread! Phew!!

Stop believing the tabloids!
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« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2006, 04:04:52 PM »

Prison for driving whilst disqualified (I was sitting in my stationary car in my own road when the police went past and they claimed they had seen me driving. My original ban was 1 month in length, for carelessly mounting a kerb in a narrow street during a police random stop).

Community service for killing someone, panicking, driving dangerously and endangering other road users, and taking a cocktail of illegal substances (either before, during or after the aforementioned killing).

Either I got off lightly or he
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« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2006, 04:28:52 PM »

presumably there is no evidence that he was driving dangerously at the time of the accident

Sadly not
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« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2006, 04:30:43 PM »

presumably there is no evidence that he was driving dangerously at the time of the accident

Sadly not

do you know this case Robert?
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« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2006, 04:54:45 PM »

presumably there is no evidence that he was driving dangerously at the time of the accident

Sadly not

Still the familly could now bring a private prosecution. Onus of proof isn't as strict there. (RHM will correct me if I'm wrong).
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