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« on: July 03, 2006, 07:55:28 PM »

South east news today. Guy gets 100 hrs community service for killing a girl and injuring another..... death via driving under the influence of drugs.
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2006, 08:08:40 PM »

South east news today. Guy gets 100 hrs community service for killing a girl and injuring another..... death via driving under the influence of drugs.


Disgusting.
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2006, 08:22:14 PM »

Im more disgusted at myself for being angry at the fact that I got jailed 4 driving disq whilst he gets a wee slap. When I should be disgusted at this tits idiotic actions and his barraster being a weasel.
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2006, 08:50:21 PM »

Im more disgusted at myself for being angry at the fact that I got jailed 4 driving disq whilst he gets a wee slap. When I should be disgusted at this tits idiotic actions and his barraster being a weasel.

I think you've got every right to be angry on a personal level as well - I'd defy anyone in your position not to.
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2006, 11:47:13 PM »

The chap pleaded guilty to driving dangerously AFTER the girl was killed, he was not sentenced, or charged, with death by dangerous driving, if he had he would have been given years.
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2006, 12:20:47 AM »

This is just another example of our wonderful country that Im beginning to lose patience in. You read about these sorta things in the papers every day and if I'm totally honest, It really Fu@ks me off. Its like them 3 lads who were sentenced a few weeks back for a totally unprovoked random knife attack which resulted in a lad losing his life, and the other seriously injured. It was all cought on CCTV Footage which was being show on a Newspapers website. It was a horrific incident and the sentences they got were truly laughable and a dam right insult to the families of the 2 lads. 15 yrs and 2 separate 5 yr sentences for the 3 guys who carried out this sick crime. They'll all be out after 8 years for good behaviour and back to their normal lives. Shame that can't be said about the lad who's life was taken.
England is truly becoming the laughing stock of the world and at times, I'm ashamed to say that I'm a citizen.
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2006, 11:29:22 AM »

it was the same in Holland a few years ago.

2 Guys beat an asylum seeker to death with a club (completely unprovoked...sort of their version of a happy slap) and got sentenced to 3 months....yes 3 months!!!

it's the same every where. I am not in favour of sticking everyone who commits a crime in jail for a very long time but a bit of perspective is called for IMO. and that seems to be lost in the legal system ATM. Mainly due to the pc brigade having told everyone for ages that it's always someone else's fault (Mommy, daddy, uncle) when someone commits a crime.
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2006, 12:10:58 PM »

Yeah stuff like this makes me sick and sad. My wife has to sometimes defend these pricks in court, I do wonder if she "try's" as hard when they are the scum of the earth like this indivdual.

The system is geared to making people plead guilty and thus saving the court and tax payers lots of money in long court cases and more time in jail. But this means alot shorter sentances for serious crimes.
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2006, 08:25:14 PM »

its a joke

a girl in my works (shes only 18) dad died a few months back. some drunk in a fast car overtook someone else at a bend and hit him head on.  he died instanly    they driver was fine.

hes due in court soon and she keeps reading about this in the paper. ppl gettin community service and 3 months here etc.. and she gets really upset.... thinking that that this is whats gonna happen to this guy.  and u try to tell her everythings gonna be fine  .  without actually saying yeh thats this what hes gonna get
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2006, 05:17:37 AM »

The chap pleaded guilty to driving dangerously AFTER the girl was killed, he was not sentenced, or charged, with death by dangerous driving, if he had he would have been given years.

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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2006, 09:35:02 AM »

The chap pleaded guilty to driving dangerously AFTER the girl was killed, he was not sentenced, or charged, with death by dangerous driving, if he had he would have been given years.

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the report I read also said he was in possession of drugs - not under the influence of drugs. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2006, 10:30:01 AM »

The chap pleaded guilty to driving dangerously AFTER the girl was killed, he was not sentenced, or charged, with death by dangerous driving, if he had he would have been given years.

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the report I read also said he was in possession of drugs - not under the influence of drugs. 

actually he was under the influence of drugs when arrested..they just couldn't prove he was under the influence of them during the accident. (he could have taken them afterwards)
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2006, 10:30:40 AM »

The chap pleaded guilty to driving dangerously AFTER the girl was killed, he was not sentenced, or charged, with death by dangerous driving, if he had he would have been given years.

Nobody claimed he was charged with death by dangerous driving. Which is the shocking thing.
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2006, 10:32:33 AM »

boldie is correct. he tested positive for ecstacy and cannabis 24 hours after the accident. Which is enough of a time difference to argue he took them after the incident.
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2006, 11:15:07 AM »

Got to love the legal system.

About 3 years ago I had a major RTA when a woman decided it would be fun to drive towards me on my side of the road. I later found out she was drunk on medicition and uninsured. As a result I was entitled to some compensation via MIB (motor insurance bureu). But this is how our wonderful legal system works.

If you don't agree a sum out of court what happens is that the defence can pay an amount into the court it feels is appriopriate. Then as the victim if I decline this amount I then have to get a judgement that either equasl or beats this figure otherwise I will incur ALL the court fees for both partie. Effectively I have to gamble on the judgement of a single person on a given day. I also have to make my decision as a person with no legal experience or understanding of what the reasonable expectations in relation to my case. Ok, you might be able to get some advice from your solicitor but then again they may just want a case over and done with without the hassle of going to court.

So it's a simply choice, do you hope to get figure you believe you are entitled too and risk losing everything. The really outrageous thing is that the defence can then slowly increase that figure and you then have to beat that new figure in court or incur considerable costs. The system is nothing better than you would get from a used car salesman. The truth is it's worse because whilst being the vicitim you are the one being focused into a decision or having to take a potentially expensive gamble.

THAT'S JUSTICE.
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