Cash Game Question

[Colchester Kev]

If the rules are clear and stated to everyone who is in, or joins the game, then there is no problem... poker etiquette doent pay the bills, and if there is no rule to be broken then it is up to each and every individual to decide what to do with their money.

you are welcome to post your thoughts just as Dave is, what we object to is personal insults and attacks on peoples characters.

[Newmanseye]

Steady on guys ... Totalise, Sofa and James, you dont have to be so smug and aggressive to a member of this forum for being honest.

KEV I AM JAMES LOL,IVE NEVER HAD A GO AT ANYONE ON THIS FORUM, BUT TO SAY WHAT HE SAID WELL ITS A JOKE M8 ,I DUNNO IT MIGHT BE OUR RULES AT OUR CLUB BUT WITHOUT BLOWING OUR LIVE CASH GAMES NORMALLY 8 HANDED GENERATES ,TO ABOUT £10-£15 K ON THE TABLE AT ANY ONE TIME BETWEEN US ,SOMETIMES MORE AND THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW WHO HAVE TRIED THIS HIT AND RUN, SIT DOWN WITH £500 WAIT TO GET IT ALL IN THEN SHOOT WITH THE POT ARE NOT WELCOME AT OUR TABLE WE NOW THE ONES WHO TRY BUT WHEN THEY COME TO SIT WE JUST SAY SORRY BUT YOUR NOT WELCOME .IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS?

Now you have me in a quandry, why do you not welcome these guys, if they are so intent on hitting and running, with a £500 all in why not bust them between you ?

I see you have a personal gripe on this issue and i appreciate your stand point, however to exclude these guys is to pass up easy pickings at a cash game table, if you have a deep pocket, why not call these people with any 2 cards to bust them and "teach them a lesson" once they are behind on your table they will piss away a lot more chasing the original buy in.

[sofa----king]

sorry about the capitals my eyes are gone ,i dunno this seems to have gone from 1 comment into about 5 diffrent things ,and kev i have not insulted this guy ive given my opinon and thats what a forum is for if you dont like my opinion then thats upto you .im not calling this guy names im sure he will  have his say tomorrow about this but to what the original feeling i get from the comments of dave is that hes saying things to cause debate of which this forum is for as ,so telling me not in so many words dont answer, i think your being unfair and maybee biased imho,but thats upto you

[Royal Flush]

You are proud of this?

Steady on guys ... Totalise, Sofa and James, you don't have to be so smug and aggressive to a member of this forum for being honest.

I don't think i have been smug or aggressive.

It's common place in a cash game to announce when you plan to leave, i always do it, say if you are sat there leaving at the next sessions fee but you are even, you then double up and suddenly it's sessions time then you look like i right bastard. If someone says i am going when my wife comes and they treble up in 20 mins and then she comes then i have no problem with him leaving.

It's just about being polite, you don't have to do it, it isn't the rules. You don't have to hold the door open for a pregnant lady or an old man, you don't have to to say please and thankyou. It's just the proper way to conduct yourself.

I hope Dave doesn't feel i was aggressive or smug towards the him, i like the guy i think he is a good bloke and a great character, i just feel he may not fully understand this poker etiquette.

[Colchester Kev]

,and kev i have not insulted this guy ive given my opinon and thats what a forum is for if you dont like my opinion then thats upto you .im not calling this guy names im sure he will  have his say tomorrow about this but to what the original feeling i get from the comments of dave is that hes saying things to cause debate of which this forum is for as ,so telling me not in so many words dont answer, i think your being unfair and maybee biased imho,but thats upto you

GREAT ANSWER M8, THIS GUY SAID HE ST DOWN WITH £350 LMAO I BET IT WAS MORE LIKE £3.50P LOL WHY DO HE TALK SO MUCH CRAP?

WELL ,YOU HAVE GOT NO POKER MANNERS WHAT SO EVER  YOUR OBVIOUSLY NOT A GOOD PLAYER TO DO THIS I CANT BELIVE YOU GOT THE BALLS TO EVEN SAY ,IF YOU DID THAT AT OUR CASINO YOU WOULD BE TOLD TO GET OUT AND YOUD BE 50/50 TO GET TO YOUR CAR I HATE PEOPLE LIKE THIS NO BALLS

IN SO MANY POSTS I SEE OFF THIS GUY IT ALL SEEMS TO BE LOW LIMIT OR £5 SNG AND A FEW MORE IVE DONE MY BANKROLL OF A £1000 IN 3 WEEKS,DO THIS SOUND LIKE A GUY THAT SITS DOWN WITH £350 1 HAND AND GETS IT IN WITH ACES WHAT A COINCIDENCE EH?THIS IS THE OPPINION IM GETTING FROM THIS GUY OR HAS HE JUST LIED AND EXAGGERATED BY SAYINY THIS TO GET PEOPLES ATTENTION?WHAT DO YOU THINK?

We obviously have differing opinions on what constitutes an insult, my views are based on the facts and are in no way biased.

And debate is fine, as long as you are capable of debating without making a personal attack on someone.

[sofa----king]

Steady on guys ... Totalise, Sofa and James, you dont have to be so smug and aggressive to a member of this forum for being honest.

KEV I AM JAMES LOL,IVE NEVER HAD A GO AT ANYONE ON THIS FORUM, BUT TO SAY WHAT HE SAID WELL ITS A JOKE M8 ,I DUNNO IT MIGHT BE OUR RULES AT OUR CLUB BUT WITHOUT BLOWING OUR LIVE CASH GAMES NORMALLY 8 HANDED GENERATES ,TO ABOUT £10-£15 K ON THE TABLE AT ANY ONE TIME BETWEEN US ,SOMETIMES MORE AND THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW WHO HAVE TRIED THIS HIT AND RUN, SIT DOWN WITH £500 WAIT TO GET IT ALL IN THEN SHOOT WITH THE POT ARE NOT WELCOME AT OUR TABLE WE NOW THE ONES WHO TRY BUT WHEN THEY COME TO SIT WE JUST SAY SORRY BUT YOUR NOT WELCOME .IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS?

Now you have me in a quandry, why do you not welcome these guys, if they are so intent on hitting and running, with a £500 all in why not bust them between you ?

I see you have a personal gripe on this issue and i appreciate your stand point, however to exclude these guys is to pass up easy pickings at a cash game table, if you have a deep pocket, why not call these people with any 2 cards to bust them and "teach them a lesson" once they are behind on your table they will piss away a lot more chasing the original buy in.

when i go to the club aprox 5 nights a week to play we dont want people coming in with there £500 to hit and run im not being funny but we get a few good cash players come down to play at our club and what impresion do you think we would give if they come down with £5-£10k just to get busted by a hit and run its just something we dont allow to happen as if this did you think these guys would come back?okokok in the smaller games £50-100 sit down its a bit diffrent then its well everything goes,but still they wont stand for hit and run merchants,at our club we have standards where as other places must be diffrent but ive played at quite a few ,rather than someone do the hit and run like dave does out in the open , why not just sit at the table and blind away a few or wait for a monster?not just get up and say thanx for the seat i just think thats taking the p155  


and if you think this is just online go have a look who plays with fun4all on laddies,no one as he is known for it he sits down they all get up ,who wants to be known for this?NOT I SIR THANKYOU

[sofa----king]

,and kev i have not insulted this guy ive given my opinon and thats what a forum is for if you dont like my opinion then thats upto you .im not calling this guy names im sure he will  have his say tomorrow about this but to what the original feeling i get from the comments of dave is that hes saying things to cause debate of which this forum is for as ,so telling me not in so many words dont answer, i think your being unfair and maybee biased imho,but thats upto you

GREAT ANSWER M8, THIS GUY SAID HE ST DOWN WITH £350 LMAO I BET IT WAS MORE LIKE £3.50P LOL WHY DO HE TALK SO MUCH CRAP?

WELL ,YOU HAVE GOT NO POKER MANNERS WHAT SO EVER  YOUR OBVIOUSLY NOT A GOOD PLAYER TO DO THIS I CANT BELIVE YOU GOT THE BALLS TO EVEN SAY ,IF YOU DID THAT AT OUR CASINO YOU WOULD BE TOLD TO GET OUT AND YOUD BE 50/50 TO GET TO YOUR CAR I HATE PEOPLE LIKE THIS NO BALLS

IN SO MANY POSTS I SEE OFF THIS GUY IT ALL SEEMS TO BE LOW LIMIT OR £5 SNG AND A FEW MORE IVE DONE MY BANKROLL OF A £1000 IN 3 WEEKS,DO THIS SOUND LIKE A GUY THAT SITS DOWN WITH £350 1 HAND AND GETS IT IN WITH ACES WHAT A COINCIDENCE EH?THIS IS THE OPPINION IM GETTING FROM THIS GUY OR HAS HE JUST LIED AND EXAGGERATED BY SAYINY THIS TO GET PEOPLES ATTENTION?WHAT DO YOU THINK?

We obviously have differing opinions on what constitutes an insult, my views are based on the facts and are in no way biased.

And debate is fine, as long as you are capable of debating without making a personal attack on someone.

[/quot    what do you mean atack on someone? dont you be so rude and throw accusations at me , i have not been rude to this guy ive stated my opinon is that attacking someone?you wanna give your head a shake m8

[Newmanseye]

Well regardless of the level, I think if a guy who wants to hit an run sits at your table you let him, there are many ways of combating the style, first off the top of my head is dont give him any action with a big push pre flop, pretty soon he will slow play a monster and have it cracked by some modest cards.

I appreciate your feelings on this sofa I really do, I just think you may be tackling the people who uses the technique the wrong way  

I had a very apt sun tzu quote that may help you or may not  ...

If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War

[Colchester Kev]

  what do you mean atack on someone? dont you be so rude and throw accusations at me , i have not been rude to this guy ive stated my opinon is that attacking someone?you wanna give your head a shake m8

Look, im not going to get into a debate about this on here ... so far you have called him a liar, you have said he talks crap, and you have said he has no balls.

If you want to discuss it further feel free to PM me and we can discuss it as much as you like.

[sofa----king]

Well regardless of the level, I think if a guy who wants to hit an run sits at your table you let him, there are many ways of combating the style, first off the top of my head is dont give him any action with a big push pre flop, pretty soon he will slow play a monster and have it cracked by some modest cards.

I appreciate your feelings on this sofa I really do, I just think you may be tackling the people who uses the technique the wrong way  

I had a very apt sun tzu quote that may help you or may not  ...

If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War

nice post m8 but i play poker quite a bit, but thnx for the tips about the old SUN TZU ill pass them on to the ministry of defence for the next war lol

[Newmanseye]

Well regardless of the level, I think if a guy who wants to hit an run sits at your table you let him, there are many ways of combating the style, first off the top of my head is dont give him any action with a big push pre flop, pretty soon he will slow play a monster and have it cracked by some modest cards.

I appreciate your feelings on this sofa I really do, I just think you may be tackling the people who uses the technique the wrong way  

I had a very apt sun tzu quote that may help you or may not  ...

If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War

nice post m8 but i play poker quite a bit, but thnx for the tips about the old SUN TZU ill pass them on to the ministry of defence for the next war lol

I'm pretty sure the MOD has them mate, the art of war was compulsory reading for officers last time I checked, My point though is this, you are allowing easy money to pass you by when you do not allow these people to play in your cash game.

I feel i have a valid opinion on cash games as thats my strongest game, I have great results from cash and it seems to  me like you are allowing an easy £1500 to pass you by, possibly more, who knows how long they will chase.

Do me a favour, if they cant get a game Give them the address of the Cincinatti club in Glasgow, I'm sure they will be welcomed !

[The Baron]

You are proud of this?

Steady on guys ... Totalise, Sofa and James, you don't have to be so smug and aggressive to a member of this forum for being honest.

I don't think i have been smug or aggressive.

It's common place in a cash game to announce when you plan to leave, i always do it, say if you are sat there leaving at the next sessions fee but you are even, you then double up and suddenly it's sessions time then you look like i right bastard. If someone says i am going when my wife comes and they treble up in 20 mins and then she comes then i have no problem with him leaving.

It's just about being polite, you don't have to do it, it isn't the rules. You don't have to hold the door open for a pregnant lady or an old man, you don't have to to say please and thankyou. It's just the proper way to conduct yourself.

I hope Dave doesn't feel i was aggressive or smug towards the him, i like the guy i think he is a good bloke and a great character, i just feel he may not fully understand this poker etiquette.

Lord help me but I agree with Flushy.

I don't think it has anything to do with having a style to counter the hit and run or how playable a hit and run merchant is.

It just comes down to a simple concept. Manners.

I hold the door open for a lady, I stand up on the bus for an OAP and I try not to hit and run if I can help it and I'm not outmatched.

[Swordpoker]

This 'hit and run' style sounds like fun. What's the best way to make it work? 

[sofa----king]

You are proud of this?

Steady on guys ... Totalise, Sofa and James, you don't have to be so smug and aggressive to a member of this forum for being honest.

I don't think i have been smug or aggressive.

It's common place in a cash game to announce when you plan to leave, i always do it, say if you are sat there leaving at the next sessions fee but you are even, you then double up and suddenly it's sessions time then you look like i right bastard. If someone says i am going when my wife comes and they treble up in 20 mins and then she comes then i have no problem with him leaving.

It's just about being polite, you don't have to do it, it isn't the rules. You don't have to hold the door open for a pregnant lady or an old man, you don't have to to say please and thankyou. It's just the proper way to conduct yourself.

I hope Dave doesn't feel i was aggressive or smug towards the him, i like the guy i think he is a good bloke and a great character, i just feel he may not fully understand this poker etiquette.

Lord help me but I agree with Flushy.

I don't think it has anything to do with having a style to counter the hit and run or how playable a hit and run merchant is.

It just comes down to a simple concept. Manners.

I hold the door open for a lady, I stand up on the bus for an OAP and I try not to hit and run if I can help it and I'm not outmatched.

ty baron,ive just pm kev i let him know my views,but i really dont think i was smugg or agressive towards dave,i know a few people who do hit and run but atleast they do it quietly with some ettiquette like get the pillow out and blind a few back,not a lot but do it with a bit of class if thats your game lock up and bolt down,just dont take the micky outta guys who you just took there money and say im off thnx for your money

[sofa----king]

This 'hit and run' style sounds like fun. What's the best way to make it work? 

come to my gaff i hit you then you run lol
ONLY A JOKE KEV just in case