Scottish Dave's Bankroll Experiment

[vegaslover]

Very honest and insightful post Dave, prob best you stay off the online poker.

[Coat]

Hi,

Can i say that this thread has been really interesting for me?
I have played WarDonkey (and mexico, etc) before on stt's on VC .

I have moved over to cash for the last 12 months but this thread made me want to go back to stts.

So using the excellent stt article on pocket 5's by Adam aand part 1 of Wardonkeys stt guide, I too did a little experiement.

I played 5 $5 stt on stars (maybe not the toughest games, but i wanted to see if I could execute the strategy).

Results were (on this small sample) ....

2 1sts
1 2nd
1 3rd

and a 4th

This gave me a whopping 176% ROI.

I wasnt a bad stt player before, but I doubt if I could have consistently hit the money like this. I know it's a small sample but still.

I was wondering if part of Daves inconsistency might be the playing of 4 tables at once.
It is clear to me that in the bubbling stage, when u spring to life, that you have to have a good awareness of the players at the table.

I can't see how can u can track 4 games at once when they start to get short handed.
Maybe that's just me getting old.

The thing I really do love about this strategy is that players havent got a scooby doo what hands u are playing as they rarely see them as you take the pots down uncontested, or you fold to resistance on a missed or scary flop.

It was interesting to note that one player I ended up beating HU said that he liked the way i changed gears, so clearly some better players out there. I always used to change gears with 4 players left, but now my raising reqts are wider.

So in summary, this is really a thank you to Dave for posting the thread and to WarDonke  and Adam (if he ever gets to read this) for the strategy.

Ciao
Coat

[Sark79]

n1 mate

[Royal Flush]

I think what i did back then is a perfect example why the government should be doing something about online funds, to stop others doing what i did.

Maybe they should ban alcohol, cars, fast food and gambling?

Just because you have no self control in that area doesn't mean those of us who are responsible to handle it can't be allowed to do it.

[Scottish Dave]

I think what i did back then is a perfect example why the government should be doing something about online funds, to stop others doing what i did.

Maybe they should ban alcohol, cars, fast food and gambling?

Just because you have no self control in that area doesn't mean those of us who are responsible to handle it can't be allowed to do it.

I never said anything about banning it, all i ment was imposing some sort of measurements to stop people from getting into the mess that i did when i was younger.......whats wrong with you anyway FFS!!, No Nooky last night?

[Sark79]

Has anyone read ONLINE ACE? 

[Robert HM]

I think what i did back then is a perfect example why the government should be doing something about online funds, to stop others doing what i did.

Maybe they should ban alcohol, cars, fast food and gambling?

Just because you have no self control in that area doesn't mean those of us who are responsible to handle it can't be allowed to do it.

I never said anything about banning it, all i ment was imposing some sort of measurements to stop people from getting into the mess that i did when i was younger.......whats wrong with you anyway FFS!!, No Nooky last night?

It's not just last night, James why are you constantly trying to post messages designed to get people's backs up and be derogatory? I don't believe it is a case of not thinking before you post as I feel there is a an cerebral effort to offend.

[thetank]

Yeah, Dave was on about how it's too easy to get into debt. A seperate issue from your freedom of what you choose to do with money

[Royal Flush]

Sorry its not aimed at Dave, and Robert i am not sure what you are getting at, but anyway i will try to explain myself.

What exactly can the government do about whether you do or don't get into debt? Either you need to borrow money or you don't. I am ideologically opposed to government getting involved in matters of economics.

[thetank]

Quite simple really, if you really need the money, you won't mind filling in 5 forms to get a substantial overdraft, rather than just clicking 5 buttons.

Unlikely to ever happen, people spending money they don't have on frivolous things is good for the economy, and the repayments are good for the financial institutions.

I think at the very least, there should be a little bit of debt awareness lessons in school to 16 year olds.

[Scottish Dave]

Sorry its not aimed at Dave, and Robert i am not sure what you are getting at, but anyway i will try to explain myself.

What exactly can the government do about whether you do or don't get into debt? Either you need to borrow money or you don't. I am ideologically opposed to government getting involved in matters of economics.

My main concern was that basically if you can work a computer, its far far to easy to be able to borrow LARGE amounts of money at the click of a button, without actually having to speak to anyone, a feature that i thought was fantastic at the time, you dont realise until its too late.

As i say im not asking for such things to be banned in definitely, or that the government should intrude, just that it shouldnt be that easy.

[Royal Flush]

Quite simple really, if you really need the money, you won't mind filling in 5 forms to get a substantial overdraft, rather than just clicking 5 buttons.

Unlikely to ever happen, people spending money they don't have on frivolous things is good for the economy, and the repayments are good for the financial institutions.

I think at the very least, there should be a little bit of debt awareness lessons in school to 16 year olds.

If the company lending me the money wants me to answer out 5 forms then thats fine, but what business does the government have asking me to do so? What exactly would they ask and would they stop me doing so!?!?

I agree there needs to be further education at schools on 'real world issues' such as this, i still think though that people know whether they need the money or not. Dave went about getting £1k to place a bet on a football match, as is his choice, what government implementation would stop him doing that?

[Royal Flush]

Sorry its not aimed at Dave, and Robert i am not sure what you are getting at, but anyway i will try to explain myself.

What exactly can the government do about whether you do or don't get into debt? Either you need to borrow money or you don't. I am ideologically opposed to government getting involved in matters of economics.

My main concern was that basically if you can work a computer, its far far to easy to be able to borrow LARGE amounts of money at the click of a button, without actually having to speak to anyone, a feature that i thought was fantastic at the time, you dont realise until its too late.

As i say im not asking for such things to be banned in definitely, or that the government should intrude, just that it shouldnt be that easy.

I see what you are saying. I didn't get the point before. I will still disagree with it though

I think its great that you can get that kind of stuff done instantly, the world is rapidly moving towards a much easier place to live in thanks to the wonders of the internet. It makes doing so many things that much easier!

When the time comes you need a loan all of a sudden for something important you will be damn glad you can get it!

[Scottish Dave]

Quite simple really, if you really need the money, you won't mind filling in 5 forms to get a substantial overdraft, rather than just clicking 5 buttons.

Unlikely to ever happen, people spending money they don't have on frivolous things is good for the economy, and the repayments are good for the financial institutions.

I think at the very least, there should be a little bit of debt awareness lessons in school to 16 year olds.

If the company lending me the money wants me to answer out 5 forms then thats fine, but what business does the government have asking me to do so? What exactly would they ask and would they stop me doing so!?!?

I agree there needs to be further education at schools on 'real world issues' such as this, i still think though that people know whether they need the money or not. Dave went about getting £1k to place a bet on a football match, as is his choice, what government implementation would stop him doing that?

making it harder to just get £1,000 at the click of a button would be a start!

As Tank says the reason no one does anything about it, is because the majority of Banks and Building societies would crumble if it wasnt for interest from overdraft, credit card charges and interest rates!

[Hairydude]

Quite simple really, if you really need the money, you won't mind filling in 5 forms to get a substantial overdraft, rather than just clicking 5 buttons.

Unlikely to ever happen, people spending money they don't have on frivolous things is good for the economy, and the repayments are good for the financial institutions.

I think at the very least, there should be a little bit of debt awareness lessons in school to 16 year olds.

  100% I too am one of the frivolous ones- I'm not long out of uni and in quite a bit of debt- nobodys fault but my own, but what I can say is that when I first started uni I wasnt exactly the maturist of people and when you get all these institutions throwing money at u its hard to resist- indeed I only joined the Natwest bank because I got a free £50 joining fee- now I've got a 2 grand overdraft that I pretty much blew on curries and nights out- who's the stupid one now, hmm the bank for giving me 50 quid for nothing or me for takin out an overdraft that essentially was booze tokens- they're certainly not daft them banks.