Launch of the Amateur Poker Association & Tour (APAT)

[Royal Flush]

Oh and James, you get nothing, as you can't enter it! 

Actually i am going to start selling my old clothes on E-Bay so i can!

[dik9]

http://www.britishcasinoassociation.org.uk/downloads/guideline_3.pdf

Its the first 3 points that I am referring to when i talk about registration

[mikkyT]

IFM/james theres ways of addressin things without bein negative. An I should kno, dont I hav a rep for bein a shitstirrer lol!

This is a great idea an whilst everyone will have questions we should word them without tryin to rip a piece out of tightend or tikay. Im glad u r askin the questions however

[Royal Flush]

James its in the first post. We get a national body which will fight our cause for us. Representation to casinos, one set of rules, a union, etc

What is our cause? Do we all want the same thing? I would say the vast majority of amateur poker players like having small price re-buys that are over with in 1 night.

What are they going to say to the casinos for us?

One set of rules, if a chain like Grosvenor cant get a single set of rules between its own casinos how is this organisation going to do it across different chains?

A union for who?

Don't get me wrong i love the idea, i just think that if i was going to pay my money for this i would want some specifics laid out rather than very general lines.

[dik9]

If the players and casinos have a reference point to stake an arguement wouldn't it make things simple?

Imagine going to a new casino and not having silly house rules that you have never heard before being implemented.

New operator opens a casino/cardroom, the person they have employed to run cardroom has 2 years experience and he is told to write the rules (it happens!) Can now just copy paste and learn himself LOL

[Royal Flush]

IFM/james theres ways of addressin things without bein negative. An I should kno, dont I hav a rep for bein a shitstirrer lol!

This is a great idea an whilst everyone will have questions we should word them without tryin to rip a piece out of tightend or tikay. Im glad u r askin the questions however

I haven't spoken too tikay but i am chatting to Tighty in between posts, he is aware i mean no malice in my posts. I just can't help thinking this is all a windup. A body to represent the players and the first thing they do is introduce increase juice!

[ifm]

IFM/james theres ways of addressin things without bein negative. An I should kno, dont I hav a rep for bein a shitstirrer lol!

This is a great idea an whilst everyone will have questions we should word them without tryin to rip a piece out of tightend or tikay. Im glad u r askin the questions however

I think it's more like (and i have had many pm's on this) that some folks on here don't like to ask awkward questions, whereas myself and flushy don't mind.
This may make us appear negative and even shitstirrers but it is not necessarily the case.

[mikkyT]

Small price rebuys is same village territory an is more akin to bingo than poker lol

Maybe it should be a dictatorship because as u say amateurs dont kno whats good 4 them or the game

[Royal Flush]

Small price re-buys is same village territory an is more akin to bingo than poker lol

Maybe it should be a dictatorship because as u say amateurs dont kno whats good 4 them or the game

Well why are these re-buys so popular then?

Casinos periodically introduce weekly freezeouts but they die out as the numbers they get fizzle out.

[mikkyT]

Fair enuf ifm l kno exactly were ur comin from with that

[ripple11]

...just to reiterate, you dont need a promo code to get in for £5, if you have a pokerstars account.....you just enter your stars user name in the appropriate page on the APAT website.

[TightEnd]

Firstly i have absolutely no problems with ifm and rflush asking questions robustly

This is our Day 1 and we expect teething problems. If people like Ian and James find them, good...we can address them and if necessary correct any mistakes

Now then, on to the point  

We had extensive discussions with the Broadway casino and the Gaming Commission, during which time a GC compliant set of rules was agreed upon. Our events will run therefore to APAT rules not the rules of the venue. I think this is a good start towards one of the association's aims, which is to standardise rules across venues for the player's benefit and a sign of the change that we should be able to effect and the type of progress that we are intending to charge £10 for as a membership fee

We understood from the Broadway that the GC wanted us to charge £67.50 + £7.50

However we will now return to both parties to clarify this...it may be we are talking about £67.50 plus £6.75 registration fee = £74.25 total

Either way you have my and the Managing director's commitment that players in Event 1 will be paying a 10% reg fee maximum

Please bear with me....we will get back to you on it. Rest assured none of us are out to make hay at the players expense..this is something we have signed up to because we firmly believe it puts players first

In addition either tikay, des or I will come back to answers to other questions when we can

dik9, please list your concerns about structure..I will ask Mel to address

[mikkyT]

I entered my stars name an it costs me a tenner?

[dik9]

Well now you asked

there is 75/150 level
there is no 150/300 level

then you jump from 600/1200 to 1000/2000

Surely you must include 750 or 800 level?

Even if it means sacrificing the 75/150 its too bigger jump?

A 2 day program like this should have 75/150 150/300 and 800/1600?

[dik9]

...just to reiterate, you dont need a promo code to get in for £5, if you have a pokerstars account.....you just enter your stars user name in the appropriate page on the APAT website.

Thats to join the online series?