Launch of the Amateur Poker Association & Tour (APAT)

[Jon MW]

Also regarding membership fees. The £5 pokerstars membership is referred to thusly:

Internet only membership is available for £5 per player and will entitle the Member to participate in APAT Online tournaments at PokerStars.com. To purchase an internet only membership, click here

Does this mean that people who take this option will not be able to enter the live tournaments?

[Royal Flush]

Well now you asked

there is 75/150 level
there is no 150/300 level

then you jump from 600/1200 to 1000/2000

Surely you must include 750 or 800 level?

Even if it means sacrificing the 75/150 its too bigger jump?

A 2 day program like this should have 75/150 150/300 and 800/1600?

To be fair there is a 75-150 level.

It seems odd no 800-1600 level given there is a 8k-16k level. Maybe its jsut a typo?


Richard, fantastic. Just goes to show healty debate makes a diffence

[mikkyT]

Im confused now. Internet only?

[TightEnd]

Also regarding membership fees. The £5 pokerstars membership is referred to thusly:

Internet only membership is available for £5 per player and will entitle the Member to participate in APAT Online tournaments at PokerStars.com. To purchase an internet only membership, click here

Does this mean that people who take this option will not be able to enter the live tournaments?

Yes

We haven't talked a lot about the Online Series yet...the OSOAP.....but please take the time to look at the relevant section on the website

[dik9]

Trial event @ the Olympics KEWL

[Jon MW]

Also regarding membership fees. The £5 pokerstars membership is referred to thusly:

Internet only membership is available for £5 per player and will entitle the Member to participate in APAT Online tournaments at PokerStars.com. To purchase an internet only membership, click here

Does this mean that people who take this option will not be able to enter the live tournaments?

Yes

We haven't talked a lot about the Online Series yet...the OSOAP.....but please take the time to look at the relevant section on the website

This seems clear to me, but if people go from the main page - click on join - put in their pokerstars ID and get given a £5 membership option - is it clear that this is not just a discount from the sponsor?

Also this is good to be able to have communication on this forum - but should there perhaps be a FAQ section on the website? It could initially include questions and clarifications that have arisen here, but with an option of submitting an enquiry?

[tikay]

I have Posted the first of my two "clarification" threads, & am on with the other.

EVERY question you have raised on here, WILL be answered. Fully, clearly, transparently, & honestly, by me, this afternoon. There is APAT activity on a lot of Poker Fora today, so please bear with us, it's a bit hectic.

But I'd suggest it's not wise to jump to conclusions emenating from comments such as we "got round" the 10% Reg Fee thing. I'd like to think that nobody would surmise I'd allow myself to be associated with any venture that tried "getting round" the Gaming Commission, or, more importantly, my fellow players. One of our Sponsors is PokerStars, & believe me, you don't get involved with those guys unless eveything is entirely tickety-boo.

OK, on with my "tikay & APAT" Post now, then I'll answer ALL the questions on here.

[dik9]

Tikay, when I refer to the registration fee, it is just so you can seek clarification, because I think there would be uproar and other casino's would take advantage and use it as a test case. Desd said he is seeking clarification which is good for me. Consultation with the Broadway may not be the best info as they have never charged any registration fee, although their compliance is quite hot on other matters.

[DesD]

Im confused now. Internet only?

To clarify on the Membership question:-

1) Full Membership is charged annually.  In year one this fee will be £10, and for year's two and on, it will be £5.  This will enable Members to play in APAT live and online events and nominate and vote in officer elections.

2) Online Membership is charged annually.  In year one, and annually, the charge will be £5.  This membership will entitle the Online Member to participate in the APAT Online series of tournaments on PokerStars.com.  It will not entitle Members to play in live events or nominate or vote in officer elections. This may be an attractive option for some of our friends from Europe and further afield.

To second what Richard said in an earlier post.  We value all feedback.  This organisation will only work if there is solid support from the Membership.  A productive stream of communication is an imperative to gain that support and trust.

Regards,

Des Duffy
Managing Director
Amateur Poker Limited

des@apat.com

[Ginger]

I'm confused now, I used the promo code and joined, I have no idea if I joined the online only part, or the proper full membership?!

[dik9]

Just a side note shouldnt the casino's and staff be involved in some way? Is there facilities for casino's/cardrooms to join?

Even on a consultation basis?

[DesD]

I'm confused now, I used the promo code and joined, I have no idea if I joined the online only part, or the proper full membership?!

Hi Ginger,

The promo code gives you full Membership at a discounted rate!  

I should add this is an exclusive offer we agreed with PokerPlayer as part of a contract that will see the APAT having a monthly column in PokerPlayer magazine, and having some serious space for tournament reports etc.  As evidenced by our appearance on their cover this month, and the fact that Tony was rightly positioned above Mr Sexton (despite his $1m win) in the news section, in the duel of the Tour hosts.....

For further clarification, there is no PokerStars promo code, or Membership discount.

Regards,

Des Duffy
Managing Director
Amateur Poker Limited

des@apat.com

[mikkyT]

Hmm. When I put my pokerstars ID in I still get the 10quid fee (good) but what if I want online only

[londonpokergirl]

Well now you asked

there is 75/150 level
there is no 150/300 level

then you jump from 600/1200 to 1000/2000

Surely you must include 750 or 800 level?

Even if it means sacrificing the 75/150 its too bigger jump?

A 2 day program like this should have 75/150 150/300 and 800/1600?
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Enclosed is the structure for the Tournaments Day 1.  We decided on a 40min clock and 10000 chips.

Blinds Level Start  
25 / 50
50 / 100        
75 / 150        0:10   Break
100 / 200
200 / 400      
300 / 600       1:00   Dinner
400 / 800        
500 / 1000      0:10   Break
600 / 1200
1000 / 2000

There is no 150/300 level as at the end of the 75/150 level we will be racing off the 25 chips

What went into consideration when I was doing the structure was good chips for lots of play and a slow blind structure.

I don't think that a 150/300 level in all fairness would make any difference with 10k chip stack as the small blind rises by 100 from level 4.    I also haven't put in a 800/1600 level due to it going from 600/1200 to 1000/2000  small blind rises by 400.  Not a huge jump and certainly at that point players should have accumulated enough chips by then so that 400 chips will not make any difference.  Also colour change at the end of 600/1200.

I wrote the structure as if I wanted to play it myself.

You will also notice that we haven't made the tournament a 14hour to play on day 1 like a lot of tournaments.  We will be playing for 7 hours which means for people getting through the 1st day they can get plenty of sleep ready for day 2 and come back refreshed.

Hope it answers the questions.

Mel
Tournament Director

[Ginger]

I'm confused now, I used the promo code and joined, I have no idea if I joined the online only part, or the proper full membership?!

Hi Ginger,

The promo code gives you full Membership at a discounted rate! 

I should add this is an exclusive offer we agreed with PokerPlayer as part of a contract that will see the APAT having a monthly column in PokerPlayer magazine, and having some serious space for tournament reports etc.  As evidenced by our appearance on their cover this month, and the fact that Tony was rightly positioned above Mr Sexton (despite his $1m win) in the news section, in the duel of the Tour hosts.....

For further clarification, there is no PokerStars promo code, or Membership discount.

Regards,

Des Duffy
Managing Director
Amateur Poker Limited

des@apat.com

Thanks for the reply Des, and cheers Tighty for the help too  reading the receipt tends to help lol 

I am officially member 002