Launch of the Amateur Poker Association & Tour (APAT)

[RED-DOG]

you can only concern yourself with your own integrity Red, Im sure tikay, tighty et al know enough "faces" to ensure that the unscrupulous few that do try and take advantage are discovered and excluded.

Now we come to the crux of the problem. What reason are they going to give for excluding them?

[Wardonkey]

I'm really not worried whether I play or not, but I am concerned about the principle.

Agreed, it's not going to worry me too much if I can't play.

However, it's never nice to be told; 'We're having a party and you're not invited.'

[NoflopsHomer]

I go for regular check ups at the hospital and I always have to fill out a stupid forms.  Do you smoke, drink, etc.  One of the questions is always occupation.   What do Pro Players write down?    Do you get funny looks from people when you say " I am a poker pro".   My family still have the image in their minds of a person in a cowboy hat and smoking a cigar.  I think most people do

When signing in at a Hotel last week  I got all daring, & entered "TV Presenter" on the Reg Form. The Receptionist, an East European, barely able to speak English, said, in a flash, "sorry Sir, you have to put your real occupation". Ah well, dream on.

Did you put Amateur Poker Player instead? 

[Colchester Kev]

you can only concern yourself with your own integrity Red, Im sure tikay, tighty et al know enough "faces" to ensure that the unscrupulous few that do try and take advantage are discovered and excluded.

Now we come to the crux of the problem. What reason are they going to give for excluding them?

thats for them to answer

[RED-DOG]

Remember, only my integrity is excluding me!

[dik9]

Did she know what a retired train spotter was?

[Colchester Kev]

Remember, only my integrity is excluding me!

and the fact that your MAIN source of income comes from poker.

[RED-DOG]

Did she know what a retired train spotter was?

Old train spotters never die, their pencils just run out of lead

[RED-DOG]

Remember, only my integrity is excluding me!

and the fact that your MAIN source of income comes from poker.

What if I say I have gone back to work?

[NoflopsHomer]

I think that no matter what happens, someone, somewhere, will most likely be excluded for some reason that they won't agree with. It will be hard to be objective and have rules that will be able to define things perfectly without there being some grey areas.

p.s that first sentence is the vaguest thing I've ever wrote.

[matt674]

Remember, only my integrity is excluding me!

and the fact that your MAIN source of income comes from poker.

But how can you let some people play even though their main source of income is poker and not others?

[RED-DOG]

What I'm saying is, honest people will be excluded, dishonest people will play.

[BrumBilly]

Good post Red.

Agreed, self policing only hurts those with integrity. I don't see the problem in allowing ALL poker players to play. I imagine most 'pro's' wouldn't play a £75 freezeout and those that are interested would be there for the social element rather than looking on the field as easy pickings. In the same vein, I posted last year on the need for more freezeouts around the £50 mark  as I know lots of players that haven't got deep enough pockets to play a festival event yet would hold their own in terms of skill. As a hobby player I'd welcome the opportunity to mix it with 'the best' at buy-ins that I can afford and in a setup where half the table aren't soft playing/colluding with each other.

I wish them every success with this. If pro's are going to be barred, can we also bar players who don't bathe before sitting down in a comp?

Will

[tikay]

Are the current rules set in stone or can ideas put forward in this thread be included?   I keep visiting this thread in between winning my cash game on betfair ( had to mention that  ) but there are about 20 more pages each time.  I don't know if this has been answered already.

Nothing is cast in stone Sark, we are listening. The likelihood is we will change/clarify a few things before Event 1, & a few more after it. Nor does it trouble me overly if we have not got it right first time. Thats the beauty of a new venture, you can fiddle with the dials & stuff, & get immense satisfaction from turning nothing into something.

[Ironside]

I wish them every success with this. If pro's are going to be barred, can we also bar players who don't bathe before sitting down in a comp?

Will


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are you excluding those of us that find showering easier than bathing?