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« Reply #90 on: August 07, 2006, 11:16:09 AM »

im sure his mother will be proud of her son for becoming a multi millionaire mainly through poker!  His actions as have been alluded (sp) to on another thread are his actions at WORK not in his own time with his friends family and loved ones. Now im no expert on opinions but this clip has to be one of the funniest things ive seen in a long time.
 
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« Reply #91 on: August 07, 2006, 12:08:17 PM »

I don't go to cardrooms to take the kind of abuse he was dishing out in the clip. It wasn't 'banter'! This has happened to me twice in live situations (one in a Gala tourny and the other in a Gutshot cash game).

Gala: Guy got abusive to me and others at the table and then stated he could 'say what he liked'. I called for management as he'd issued a veiled threat. He wasn't banned/removed and was only verbally warned for the future. My problem was that he'd ALREADY displayed behaviour that should have been punished. As it was, the management weren't going to look after me so I let him know as calmy as I could that I wasn't going to take any more threats. He later busted out and SHOUTED a heap of abuse at me on his way out. NOTHING done about that either but I guess there are those on here that would have had a chuckle at the abuse he dished out. I think the guy was a bully and I don't like that whether it's at work or at the poker table. Banter is one thing but bullying is quite another. Bottom line is, when those with the power to punish this kind of thing decide to look the other way the only thing you can do is govern yourself. For me that meant TAKING HIS HEAD OFF if he came anywhere near me after issuing those threats. NOT the kind of decisions I want to have to be put to ANYWHERE but if that's the kind of thing people want to go around saying then there ARE CONSEQUENCES.

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On yer self Billy!!! well said

i agree
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« Reply #92 on: August 07, 2006, 07:40:55 PM »

poker needs characters but it doesnt need that. new players come along with shocking etiquette after seeing Tony G / Helmuth / insert name of stroppy table banger here.

I wouldnt have made the call with KJ but If I was sat there with a bigger ace and TonyG had outdrawn me with the 2 and spoke to me like that I'd have ended up banned because he'd be wearing my chair.

no justification for speaking to another human being like that. none at all

Create distance and Grab a Chair!  Cheesy

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6WlT9mqHTWI

that's fantastic

for anyone who doesnt know Bas Rutten is one of the altime great K1 (thai boxing) legends. didn't realise he had this sort of DVD out. might have a look at them  Cheesy
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« Reply #93 on: August 26, 2006, 04:20:57 PM »

This has probably been on here before. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyroD-_fylc

Look and listen to Mike Sexton when he is watching Tony G, it is obvious he thinks he is a ......  Cheesy ( bit about calling the clock.  I read an interview with him once and he commented on these kinds of actions by modern players )
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« Reply #94 on: October 22, 2006, 12:36:24 PM »

I watched this video vai pocket .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvCn_KbLpLY

The more I watch it the more I think that Tong g is a toatl joke, yeh he may play good poker but have some common decency.

What a total ugly mug.
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« Reply #95 on: October 22, 2006, 12:51:57 PM »

Its already been debated.  See http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=13256.0
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« Reply #96 on: October 22, 2006, 12:52:13 PM »

I really apologise for the very bad typos above, I am having problems with my keyboard.
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« Reply #97 on: October 22, 2006, 12:53:09 PM »

Sorry about that then , please can you delete this thread.

thank you.
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« Reply #98 on: October 22, 2006, 12:56:42 PM »


Are we allowed to reply on this thread?

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« Reply #99 on: October 22, 2006, 12:57:41 PM »

No problems.  My post wasn't intended to be a 'telling off'.  Apologies if it came across that way.

No need for the thread to be deleted - I'll merge it into the original one.

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« Reply #100 on: October 22, 2006, 06:05:56 PM »

More than one poster have criticised Tony's abusive approach by labelling him "fat", "ugly" and a "pig." Very well played.

Surely people are able to see that this is an act, designed to intimidate opponents into making mistakes. It's not gentlemanly but since when has poker been a game for gentlemen!

I think you'll find that phrase is reserved for golf and cricket and even cricket has sledging, which makes tony sound like he has a mouthful of lavenders.

If it was outside the rules then the tournament director should step in and administer a suitable punishment. It's not though and so he is doing nothing wrong in my view.  Yes, he will probably get a smack in the mouth at some point and I'm sure he will be the first to say that's been coming a while.

Personally I would LOVE to be on the same table as Tony, who poker-wise has an excellent record and draws people to watch him play, partly because of the spectacle he creates and the pressure he puts on players. I'm willing to bet that everyone who criticises Tony G will all be opening up the next clip of him abusing an opponent and watching it quite a few times before condemning his behaviour.

Look at how he abused Surinder after he made an unwise bluff at him in the Paris event. How did surinder react? With his trademark cool, calm concentration. He then went on to beat Tony and win the title. This is what class players do. They deflect Tony's aggression, realising that it is all an act designed to affect their poker.

Look at him as a guy acting out a role, deliberately playing an aggressive buffoon for a premeditated purpose and you'll find him as entertaining as the hundreds of thousands of people who watch his antics.

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« Reply #101 on: October 22, 2006, 06:18:43 PM »

An act or not, it's not only his chips that have crossed the line.
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« Reply #102 on: October 23, 2006, 02:24:44 AM »

I will give you an example of a similar type player as I haven't played Tony G yet (nowhere near on the same skill level though). First time i played Korosh his talking and rubdowns got me to play
possibly the worst hand i've ever played in which I doubled him up drawing dead on the flop. Yes that's how badly affected I was I called his all in with AK high and he had a set. I put my ipod
on, ignored him as he was commenting me on my "brilliant play" and managed to get on with my game and didn't play another bad pot vs him.

Same thing here, a top pro who has a 3rd place finish in the wsop is calling all in with a relatively weak hand. He wanted to bust Tony G so much he made a bad call for all his chips.
(And remember that french dude in the first french WPT where he moved all in v Tony G drawing dead with AT on a KKQ board and Tony G had QQ)

Whether you like it or not here are 3 examples of these tactics working. Learn to defend against it and ignore him. If you can listen to what he's saying he might give away something about the strength of his hand instead of letting your blood pressure rise and want to just take him out.
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« Reply #103 on: June 27, 2007, 09:18:58 PM »

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=10961258&an=0&page=0&vc=1

I don't quite understand what this means but it sounds pretty bad.

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tony g flipped out and rifled his entire stack of chips of about 20 right into the dealer's face like a bullet
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« Reply #104 on: June 27, 2007, 09:54:43 PM »

we have all debated Tony G's poker actiosn for many times now.  We know what he is like. 

Some like it some dont but lets face it its an act.

I know Tony personally and through business and in fact had lunch with him 4 weeks or so ago.

Off the table he is actually a lovely guy, respectful, humble and just normal.  He also gives and does a HUGE amount for charity, a lot of which is not publicised.

But when he crosses the felt, just like a Macenroe or a mad footballer - he goes into the zone and wants to win at an costs.  Nothing wrong with wanting to win.  More people should want to win more.

Some people dont like it and a lot think its great for the TV coverage.

But lets not go judging and slagging a guy who off the table we dont know.

Lets accept that some think his antics are wrong but that doesnt mean he is like that off the table.

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