Biggest chipstack blown by "creative" play

[ariston]

As a mark of respect for Tikays recent efforts I feel it only fair the creative blondites own up to the biggest chipstacks they have blown. My biggest was when I had just shy of 2million in a rebuy affair on stars with 6 left (around 70% of the chips in play) and managed to finish 6th after having aces cracked and going on tilt. Luckily I had brokered a favourable deal just prior to this but we were still playing for an extra 2k for 1st place. Come on now guys own up (I am sure Julian, Greg and atit bradley must have a few tales).

[ariston]

My final hand in this comp was 24off which I bet every street to represent the AKxxx board. My opponent had AA and was obviously to busy trying to work out what I had to fold lol

[tikay]

About 70k on Friday at Sheffield with 4 tables, left, average at the time 18k. Exited 21st. And not ONE bad beat.......

[ariston]

Just how creative did you get abe? Need to know the worst play you made lol- this is a form of free therapy mate......." Hello My names tony and I'm an atit merchant". Welcome to the group sir.

[TightEnd]

90,000 of 170,000 chips in play in a small tournament, four left...two very short stacks, another with 70 or so

I raise with 10,10, get flat caled by second chip leader to my left

flop A Q 6, marvellous. Big bet representing A

called

turn 10...bingo......bet out, flat called

river 6...bingo squared, I've got a boat...bet, raise, reraise, oh wtf....

He's got AA and I've represented the A into a set of them, marvellous

from chip leader to out the door in two minutes
 

[tikay]

The worst two?

3-3 in the BB, little Raise by Mr Colclough, I call, he aint nicking MY BB.

Flop was 8-8-7 - I am calling here to represent the 8, & anyway, I know he's got naff all - another 8 on the turn - oops, dodgy representing the 8 now, but I fancy my 3-3 is still good - 5 on the river - I am obliged to call Dave's 8k bet into a 30k pot by now, but it's OK, he's at it for sure. He shows AA. As Dave said after, once he'd finished counting my chips, & giggling uncontrollably, I shoulda bet the flop to see where I was. TOO PASSIVE.

Family pot, with blinds at 1k-2k, me in SB with T-3 off. Flop comes T-8-5, two clubs. Jim Reid is on button, & has been nicking wholesale, as has Alan McLean, & I'm getting a bit miffed. We all check to Jim on the Button, my plan is to snap him off when he does his steal routine. He bets 8k, yup, got him, I move all-in for 30k more. Now, put yourself in Jim's shoes.

Am I betting my flush draw?

Am I protecting my set agaqinst the flush draw?

Am I protecting 2 pair against the flush draw?

Am I protecting my Big Ten?

It's IMPOSSIBLE for him to call me, he only has, maybe, 40k, so it's most of his stack.

So he calls, & shows T-J. Thats Ten with a J kicker.

I rate that as either the worst play of all time by me, or an incredible call by him - an amazing call, & I do NOT mean that in an ironic way. Maybe both.

He admitted afterwards he put me on the flush draw. Willie Tann later said to Jim that he'd made a bad call, I COULD have had a monster.

Jim'a a special friend of mine, I love the guy. WHAT a call.

And here's a beauty, where I actually won the hand, but maybe left a lot of chips behind. Another family pot.

I limp with A-3 suited, clubs. Flop is KQJ, turn is the T, and there are two clubs. So I have the nut straight, & the nut flush draw. Early pos makes it 1k, three others limp, it gets to me. I think, at LEAST one of these limpers must have an A, possibly 2. So there could be three of us sat with the nut straight, but I am freerolling with the nut flush draw. Here's a GREAT idea, why not move all-in? Anyone with the A has to call, or with 2 clubs, & I'm in Freeroll City. They all pass to the last guy who dwells for 5 minutes, before passing, showing 8-9, the "ugly" straight, BUT, it was 8-9 of clubs.......So if I just call the turn, and a club had rivered...................

Once everyone had stopped laughing, I tried to explain my logic, but they were not wearing it. Simon Zach was actually very helpful, & explained to me carefully after where I had boobed. I'm STILL not convinced it was a bad play - if someone had an A - surely a likely scenario - they'd HAVE to call. That's my prob see - I won't accept I'm wrong, when I clearly am. (NOT.....)

[ifm]

i see the logic but isn't hindsight a wonderful thing eh?
if someone did have the ace and you hit the flush it would have been inspired, best move ever etc.
Hindsight dictates a small raise but as you say anyone with an ace HAS to call.
Ian

[ariston]

I actually think the TJ call is not inspired it was lunacy. You could have flopped anything from the blind, 2 pair small set and even against a flush draw with a couple of overcards he isnt in that good shape. I don't think it was really a bad play but he got your chips. The A high staight with nut flush draw is well thought out but (and it is a big but) it is important that someone has an ace. Just on the basic maths there are 3 aces left in the deck which one of your opponents could hold- had there been any preflop action? was there any action on the flop? This isnt an internet comp so the odds on somebody having a rag ace are far less likely in this type of event imo. A small reraise would have been in order here to maybe trap in the other flush draw/2 pair type hands (IMO). Remember poker is a game of oppinions and there is no absolute correct way to play/wrong way to play.

[ifm]

the other thing is you showed your hand, i like elblondies thinking here that whenever you show your cards you are giving information away so don't.
Maybe the J10 caller wouldn't if you hadn't shown out previously?
Ian

[redsimon]

9 handed SNG on PokerStars, 1st wins seat in $215 Sunday nighter and second gets small amount of cash. 13500 chips in play, me 13000 matey boy 500. 5 minutes later I'm out 2nd..

[Royal Flush]

Best (or worst) online.

Last 3 of a comp i have 260k 2nd has 26k 3rd has 5k. I am in the BB with the 5k stack in the SB and i fold to his all in on 1.6k-3.2k. My reasoning was i wanted to keep him for longer so the 26k would keep folding to my bets and i would be assured of first.

Needles to say i eneded up coming 3rd with the 5k stack winning! It did involve a terrible run of hands vs the 2nd guy where i lost 4 hands to him all in pre flop with dominating hands (AK vs AQ) etc.


live, i would have to go for the first event at luton. With 20% of the chips in play and 12 players left i thought i would finally break my curse (i always seem to get down to the last 2/3 tables in festivals and then mess it up/get outdrawn) so surely the correct play is to sit back and make the occasional blind steal.

Well that would be boring, so i raised it to 8k on 1.5-3 with QJ and when i was check raised to 20k on the AAQ flop i figured i could push my opponent off a small ace, so naturally i pushed back all in. He decided to call and show me A6. Then next hand i raised mr Tann all in with AT to see his AQ. OOPS!

[ariston]

Thats what I wanted to see- very creative leaving the shortstack in so you could attack the other man...surely the shortstack cant do any damage with such a small stack anyway lol.

[Gamblor21]

well i think i've had too many to remember... a couple last week in luton but nothing spectaculor!

best in a decent size comp was the £150pot limit at blackpool at the last festival, i'm second in chips by a margin and latif is the only one a head of me... not by much!

i raise with kj and latif takes an age to call... flop comes q 10 4 two clubs, latif thinks for a whileand bets the pot, i think he must be atit and reraise him instantly then he says allin before i can get my bet in... i call he has a set of queens! no help and i'm out 7th, i could have passed my way to top3 without thinking. but i could'nt sit still!

think that was one of my worst but i do it quite regulary so they kind of blur into one lol!

one of the worst i have seen was rolands in the orleans... he had so many chips and was miles a head of the pack... i was second and was miles away till he gifted m a full double up!

thanks for the bok ariston by the way it has worked lol!

At-iT

[BlueWolf]

30k 4 handed from a 20player mtt on ladbrokes i think it was, you know the scenario 8am no sleep and the comp draggin on just got bored and went on the rampage winning with crap and losing massive with big hands finished 3rd and was fuming had to go play heads up to get it outta my sytem lol

[The Camel]

Tikay,

Don't beat yourself up about those plays.

The call against DC was debatable but probably ok. It's likely he was winning but the pot was so big you virtually had to call on the river. You probably should have check raised the flop and that would have saved you chips.... But, poker is a game of mistakes. We all make 'em. Even DC.

And the move against Jim was excellent. He flat out made a great call. One I doubt I could have made in similar spot. As I said earlier he played great in the final and probably deserved to win.

I didn't play with you long on Friday, but it was the best I've ever seen you play. The breaks didn't go with you thats all.

Chin up, I have lost much better positions in much bigger tournaments than that and I've lived to tell the tale.