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Another sickner for Negreanu
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September 06, 2006, 05:03:49 PM »
Bad call?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p166DHaYFs
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Re: Another sickner for Negreanu
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September 06, 2006, 05:18:08 PM »
Just wish Lingren had shouted "Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" as he turned the cards over.
But there were a few hands out there that could have beaten him and yes bad call, but good tv.
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September 06, 2006, 05:21:06 PM »
Not that for that much money but i've been there.
There was debate about folding the last time but surely he could have folded there, a little jaded from the cold deck me thinks.
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September 06, 2006, 06:01:37 PM »
Terrible call
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September 06, 2006, 06:01:46 PM »
Yea i agree. I think he just went, ah fck it and threw the money in.
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September 06, 2006, 06:08:29 PM »
Quote from: SupaMonkey on September 06, 2006, 06:01:46 PM
Yea i agree. I think he just went, ah fck it and threw the money in.
When you're worth £10million what is 70k on TV
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September 06, 2006, 06:30:45 PM »
He's behind to a bigger straight, a number of full houses and quads its a shocking call even when thinking it through he puts him on a hand that beats him and then calls ... Why?
Whay call for that ammount of money when your behind??
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September 06, 2006, 06:57:55 PM »
In fairness during the actual show Lindgren talks about how Daniel will be expecting him to make a big bluff. I still check call myself
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September 06, 2006, 07:34:19 PM »
Apart from hindsight, I don't undertsand why everyone is calling it a 'terrible' call because:
(i) there are no flush draws
(ii) he won't have J-8 or Q-8 due to flat-calling a preflop raise.
(iii) he would have re-raised preflop with A-A, Q-Q or J-J due to (a) it being a strong hand that needs defining and (b) so many people still left to act behind him
(iv) although he could hold A-8, it is unlikely that he'd call the flop bet and then move over the top on the River
(v) as seen in the interview, Negreanu could be expecting Lindgren to make moves on him
(vi) seeing as though he's called and lost similar hands previously after flopping monster hands, Negreanu may think that Lindgren will make a bluff, or a move with a slightly weaker hand, and get Negreanu to fold.
The only hand you can put him on is Quad 8s, and how often can you be so sure that someone has Four of a Kind that you're willing to fold your flopped nuts, especially with so much money already invested in the pot.
K-T is a possibility, but again, would he move in on the River rather than just flatcalling, and don't forget that Negreanu said "I know he doesn't have K-T, that's for sure"
On TV it looks like a shite call, but, of course, we can see the cards, which is somehwhat of a bonus.
If it was me, I would have called as well...
and then put my fist in my mouth.
then again, maybe that's why I'm not sitting at that table. :D
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September 06, 2006, 07:37:02 PM »
That is the first time I have seen DN actually lose his cool
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September 06, 2006, 07:41:46 PM »
Quote from: Sark79 on September 06, 2006, 07:37:02 PM
That is the first time I have seen DN actually lose his cool
I saw it happen at the WSOP in the H.O.R.S.E event, he did exactly the same thing - banged the table and through a mini hissy fit.
I think he's more tantrum prone than most people think.
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September 06, 2006, 07:52:52 PM »
Don't forget the physical tells, Doyle said he thought Eric was "at-it" aswell
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Re: Another sickner for Negreanu
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September 06, 2006, 08:23:56 PM »
Quote from: snoopy1239 on September 06, 2006, 07:34:19 PM
Apart from hindsight, I don't understand why everyone is calling it a 'terrible' call.
Because we are all
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Re: Another sickner for Negreanu
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September 06, 2006, 09:56:47 PM »
Quote from: snoopy1239 on September 06, 2006, 07:34:19 PM
Apart from hindsight, I don't undertsand why everyone is calling it a 'terrible' call because:
(i) there are no flush draws
(ii) he won't have J-8 or Q-8 due to flat-calling a preflop raise.
(iii) he would have re-raised preflop with A-A, Q-Q or J-J due to (a) it being a strong hand that needs defining and (b) so many people still left to act behind him
(iv) although he could hold A-8, it is unlikely that he'd call the flop bet and then move over the top on the River
(v) as seen in the interview, Negreanu could be expecting Lindgren to make moves on him
(vi) seeing as though he's called and lost similar hands previously after flopping monster hands, Negreanu may think that Lindgren will make a bluff, or a move with a slightly weaker hand, and get Negreanu to fold.
The only hand you can put him on is Quad
, and how often can you be so sure that someone has Four of a Kind that you're willing to fold your flopped nuts, especially with so much money already invested in the pot.
K-T is a possibility, but again, would he move in on the River rather than just flatcalling, and don't forget that Negreanu said "I know he doesn't have K-T, that's for sure"
On TV it looks like a shite call, but, of course, we can see the cards, which is somehwhat of a bonus.
If it was me, I would have called as well...
and then put my fist in my mouth.
then again, maybe that's why I'm not sitting at that table.
I have to say completely disagree with this snoops... I think it was a bad call, as were many from him so far!
Your point on lindgrens hands is wrong imo, because the game was playing real loose... lindgren would call with many hands for 2k preflop and he was playing alot of hands slow.
The huge dwell then call on the turn has to set alarm bells off. And then reraise on the river... what can you put him on???
I agree with flushy and prob check call the river, but when leading then reraised i don't think you can call expecting a bluff because you don't beat anything else he may raise with.
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Re: Another sickner for Negreanu
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Well personally I enjoyed it for what it was. A good player losing it at a crucial time
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