O/T 9/11 conspiracy theories

[Wardonkey]

I can just see Bush and his cronies sat round a meeting table.

Rumsfeld - 'Hey George, I got a swell idea that will let us bomb the poo out of the middle east.'

Bush - 'Really Don, that's great, let's hear it.'

Rumsfeld - 'Well, we blow up the World Trade Centre.'

Bush - 'Whaddya mean Don? The World Trade Centre is a symbol of everything we stand for. We can't just blow it up.'

Rumsfeld - 'Wait, I haven't got to the good bit yet; we make it look like some crazy Arabs flew passenger jets into them. That way Larry get his insurance money, everybody hates the Arabs and we can bomb 'em silly.'

Bush - 'Gee, that's a swell idea Don, let's do it!'

[Scottish Dave]

I was wondering when we'd get on to the moon landings!  This is all interesting stuff though.  BT and Dave, there are obviously many levels at which people will believe we don't have the full story, with the extreme belief, as I see it, being the one that there were no planes involved - I'd be genuinely interested to hear your views on that.

there is no doubt, there were planes involved, everyone can see that.

PS - The moonlanding was so fake, in fact i dont actually believe there is a moon! its just a big beam that Bush shines up through the sky window in his loft!

[SupaMonkey]

people are very good at wangling the "facts" to fit their own ideals... so the case made for the conspiracy theorists and the government apologists are always going to be persuasive to certain people... personally I dont think they orchestrated the 9/11 scenario, I think theres easier ways to stage stuff like this to justify going to war

i don't believe these conspiarcy theories anymore than i believe that the moon landing was a hoax 

how can the flag flutter on the moon!?!? obv hoax

You're fishin here right?



ps solar winds

[Claw75]

its just a big beam that Bush shines up through the sky window in his loft!

 

[BigTomatoes]

That is interesting propaganda BT however if this was an "inside job" then it was not very well thought out, This has cost the USA billions of dollars both in domestic and forgin operations with wars, compensation, and trade revenues to mention a few.

I'm not sold on the idea that it was a ploy to get funding from the senate, or to ensure that George W got his second term or even to give GWB the racist a reason to go kill some people in the developing countries.

This all seems a Little thin to me.

 claw that is an insane theory imo - just not plausibe for what we all seen to be holographic

 billy , the US has MADE millions of dollars , if you do some research , the Bush family are big players in the Carlyle group which is a multi national arms dealing company , they have made billions in contracts for weapons , missiles etc for all these wars being fought in Afghanistan , Iraq and even Lebanon now.

 there are other companies such as Halliburton which is installing a massive pipeline throughout the middle east making billions in contracts

 plus many many other companies profiting through war and rebuilding contracts

 It is in the neo cons interest to go to war with these countries under the pretext of War on Terror , To free the people etc

 remember thy told us about the WMDs ? where are they ? apart from the ones America sold them ( Rumsfeld )

 the neo cons released a document years ago called the project for the new american century

 which is basically a strategic plan for American dominance in the middle east and other countries to gain power and money/oil - other wealthy resources

 Dick Cheney said in this document - America would need a '' new pearl harbour event '' to put into place these plans

 9 / 11 was a pearl harbour scale attack so they would definitely have the motive and have definitely profited from events since.

 This all sounds very scary to people looking at it for the first time ,

 but i would ask people to do some research and keep an open mind when looking at these issues

 i used to think conspiracy theories were a bit crazy , now i have a different viewpoint.

 ps wardonkey - did you know the Bush family and The Bin Laden family were co - owners of the same company once ?

 a company George Bush was chairman of. ?

 sounds crazy but it is all documented

[Scottish Dave]

people are very good at wangling the "facts" to fit their own ideals... so the case made for the conspiracy theorists and the government apologists are always going to be persuasive to certain people... personally I dont think they orchestrated the 9/11 scenario, I think theres easier ways to stage stuff like this to justify going to war

i don't believe these conspiarcy theories anymore than i believe that the moon landing was a hoax 

how can the flag flutter on the moon!?!? obv hoax

You're fishin here right?



ps solar winds

solar whats-its?

next youll be telling us the centre of the Earth is just a mass of hot runny stuff, like a Cream egg!

[SupaMonkey]

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast31jan_1.htm

[Royal Flush]

well, there you have it.. definitive proof!

Did i say i was posting proof???

this is an open forum and i posted my opinon, maybe you should post something on the subject, and try to debate my opinion instead if attacking someone elses views?

Welcome back.....

T, another classic post.

Cheers mate, good to be back

How was the bash...and nice Blue Top, must have took a few FPP's

The bash was good, shame so many jocks came though

BSQ top was the ICHUCH GB top from the Ireland match.

Ahhh i knew it had Blinded me before somewhere, glad you enjoyed it mate, and sad i missed it......

PS you will never get rid of us Jocks you know.

lol yes they are quite 'special'

It would have been a good laugh with you, the sunday pissup with Rod, Teacake, Laz, Tank and mikky was a good laugh!

Ahhh the old Sunday drinking, cannae beat it mate, always such a relaxing atmosphere

Ill defo be at Brighton (or where ever) just after Xmas (or when ever)

But your on the bell mate

Will look foward too it, have to introduce you to western roll

[Wardonkey]

The beauty of the internet is that you can find evidence to support absolutely anything you want.

I can't comprehend the way the mind of a conspiracy theorist works and I have no desire to try.

What I object to are the persistant and determined efforts to scare the hell out of the paranoid and the gullible for politically motivated reasons.

The simplest answer is usually correct.

[SupaMonkey]

I reckon it was aliens.

[Scottish Dave]

well, there you have it.. definitive proof!

Did i say i was posting proof???

this is an open forum and i posted my opinon, maybe you should post something on the subject, and try to debate my opinion instead if attacking someone elses views?

Welcome back.....

T, another classic post.

Cheers mate, good to be back

How was the bash...and nice Blue Top, must have took a few FPP's

The bash was good, shame so many jocks came though

BSQ top was the ICHUCH GB top from the Ireland match.

Ahhh i knew it had Blinded me before somewhere, glad you enjoyed it mate, and sad i missed it......

PS you will never get rid of us Jocks you know.

lol yes they are quite 'special'

It would have been a good laugh with you, the sunday pissup with Rod, Teacake, Laz, Tank and mikky was a good laugh!

Ahhh the old Sunday drinking, cannae beat it mate, always such a relaxing atmosphere

Ill defo be at Brighton (or where ever) just after Xmas (or when ever)

But your on the bell mate

Will look foward too it, have to introduce you to western roll

Western Roll? does that involve my @ss in anyway - if so, it looks like ill be skint for BB4 again lads sorry

[SupaMonkey]

I reckon it was aliens.

I have evidence too, look here they were scoping out the scene beforehand.

http://www.crowdedskies.com/videos/happens_1_big.mov

[BigTomatoes]

 its all very well laughing at our theories or dismissing them

 here is one you wont be able to dismiss.

 remember on 9/11 they said mistakes were made because NORAD ( north american air defence department )

 were running drills which involved hijacked planes being hijacked and used for attacks on landmarks ? ( coincidence ? )

 well the same thing happened on 7/7.

 a private company ( visor - emergency response solutions ) was hired by an unknown party to run excercises on 7th July

 this excercise involved imaginary bomb attacks on the EXACT same locations , at the EXACT same time as the real event.

 im no expert on calculating odds of probability , but what are the chances of drills being carried out which then

 coincide with real time events ? this would have to be the biggest coincidence in history - or something else

 i believe the odds i heard were of a 40 figure number to 1 ,

 that is something like 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to ONE

 now think of that in poker terms - that is a BAD BAD BAD beat

 here is the director of said company reporting this in an interview on ITN on the day

 yet this fact has never been reported on or looked at again and the company have never spoken out about it since.

 why is this MASSIVE factor being disregarded ?

 http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/110705bombingexercises.htm

[Wardonkey]

It was probably disregarded when they found out it was complete b*ll*cks...

[BigTomatoes]

 

 why did i expect any better from you ?

 your probably right , that video that went out live on ITN news on 7/7 was probably fake

 well at least now i know your level