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« on: August 30, 2005, 01:02:11 PM »

Have been reading the excellent Paul Phillips again, who comments on a hand from the Bicycle club WPT

....Jennifer Harman has 130k, PP has 180k. JH raises from late position and PP calls the 4500 raise in the bb with 10 10

Flop comes 10,9,2

PP bets 9k, Harman raises to 29k, and PP goes all in.

Harman lays down AA



Go on, tell me about your monster laydowns and why you made them.


Such an under-rated part of a poker player's armoury don't you think?
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2005, 01:03:40 PM »

I wish i could, but i dont fold!
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2005, 01:06:10 PM »

I wish i could, but i dont fold!

You can tell Jane that I'm not even going to score the open goal!!!
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2005, 01:07:23 PM »

the frustrating part is sometimes you never know if it was a great laydown or not unless they show.
i once laid down AK suited in a reraise war against AA, just knew.....
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2005, 01:08:22 PM »

My best laydown was probably aces on a ten high board in the blackpool festival last year. I had 80k in chips and was big chip leader and an internet player almost reraised me from the bb (it was a nl comp) but just called. On the flop he moved allin and I eventually folded after the full 10 minute carlo. My rational was he had to have a big pocket pair to almost reraise preflop and I had seen him come over the top with queens and kings earlier in the comp so he had to have jacks or tens. I had it as 50/50 that he had the jacks or the set to bet allin (overbetting to protect his hand was one of his traits) so I decided to fold and keep my big stack. He showed the tens after I showed my folded aces.
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2005, 01:10:21 PM »

My best laydown was probably aces on a ten high board in the blackpool festival last year. I had 80k in chips and was big chip leader and an internet player almost reraised me from the bb (it was a nl comp) but just called. On the flop he moved allin and I eventually folded after the full 10 minute carlo. My rational was he had to have a big pocket pair to almost reraise preflop and I had seen him come over the top with queens and kings earlier in the comp so he had to have jacks or tens. I had it as 50/50 that he had the jacks or the set to bet allin (overbetting to protect his hand was one of his traits) so I decided to fold and keep my big stack. He showed the tens after I showed my folded aces.


How many more chips would he have won if he'd check raised you on the flop mate?  Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2005, 01:19:54 PM »


"....a full 10 minute Carlo...."

Beautiful!
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2005, 01:23:14 PM »

I folded AA very late in a tourney on Pokerstars

I limped in hoping for a raise, button raised 3 x bb about 3000

I re-raised to 9000 he called, flop comes Q 8 2 rainbow (nice)

I bet he calls, turn Q, I check, he checks

River is 5, I check again he goes all in!!!!

I type in the window that I have AA and I think he has AQ

I then fold hoping he will show but he doesn't!!

Was it a good fold? I dont know, I think if he had the Q he would have shown.

Next hand I get KK and think i'm not messing about and go all in hoping for a call

I do indeed get a call from someone holding with rivers a flush and I am out

I still cant help thinking I should have called withh AA

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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2005, 01:38:43 PM »

Tightend if he had checked the flop i may well have go tmyself potstuck by overbetting flop myself.
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2005, 01:56:48 PM »

sorry! - i cant ever confess to having made a great lay down.
If i'm in, i'm in - so don't go reraising me!
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2005, 02:05:45 PM »

ive laid down the nut flush on a paired board only to be shown trips which really annoyed me. so im not sure if that should be in this thread or if i should start another titled bad laydowns Sad
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2005, 02:51:16 PM »

sorry! - i cant ever confess to having made a great lay down.
If i'm in, i'm in - so don't go reraising me!

not true Greg...saw you make several passes to re-raises in Luton, or were you feeling a little under the weather?!
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2005, 02:52:22 PM »

Tightend if he had checked the flop i may well have go tmyself potstuck by overbetting flop myself.

that was my point, the guy didn't milk you and you got off lightly!
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2005, 03:06:43 PM »

ahhh well, errr... well, its different when your making an 'experimental raise'  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2005, 03:09:15 PM »

Ahh, I shall add that to my Poker Dictionary - "experimental raise". Presumably not to be tried with anything better than 9-4 off?
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