Amnesty International

[ifm]

I have a huge problem with this sort of thing.
If i want to give money to charity i will. I don't want to be harrassed about it.
I only believe in charities that operate soley in the UK, no offense but that is my view.
I also dislike the fact that charities have advertising and marketing budgets, i understand the need for it but i can't help thinking that if i donate say £100 only a percentage goes where i intended it to, give it to a beggar in the street at least it all goes where it was supposed to!

[Maddog]

Chuggers (Charity Muggers) roam the high street in Reading practically every day.

Sometimes you even see them changing there tops as they switch from one charity to another.

I try to avoid them all, like a lot of people say on here. If I want to give money to charity I will I don't want to be hassled into it.

 

[AndrewT]

I try to avoid them all, like a lot of people say on here. If I want to give money to charity I will I don't want to be hassled into it.

 

The point is that not enough people do give money to charity - the general public does have to be 'hassled into it'.

If we ate our broccoli by ourselves our mums wouldn't need to stand over us waiting for us to finish our dinner.

[boldie]

I try to avoid them all, like a lot of people say on here. If I want to give money to charity I will I don't want to be hassled into it.

 

The point is that not enough people do give money to charity - the general public does have to be 'hassled into it'.

If we ate our broccoli by ourselves our mums wouldn't need to stand over us waiting for us to finish our dinner.

charities will never have enough money..simple fact of life. There are soo many causes (some just and some unjust) in the world that as soon as a problem would be fixed a charity for another would be created.

Charities generally (unless it's the small ones who don't have any money and solely rely on volunteers) are ussually also very poorly financially managed once they get big. A lot of the charities only put 30-45% of the money they raise towards the actual cause because they have overheads. This is the reason I hardly give any money to big charities.

[bolt pp]

I try to avoid them all, like a lot of people say on here. If I want to give money to charity I will I don't want to be hassled into it.

 

The point is that not enough people do give money to charity - the general public does have to be 'hassled into it'.

If we ate our broccoli by ourselves our mums wouldn't need to stand over us waiting for us to finish our dinner.

charities will never have enough money..simple fact of life. There are soo many causes (some just and some unjust) in the world that as soon as a problem would be fixed a charity for another would be created.

Charities generally (unless it's the small ones who don't have any money and solely rely on volunteers) are ussually also very poorly financially managed once they get big. A lot of the charities only put 30-45% of the money they raise towards the actual cause because they have overheads. This is the reason I hardly give any money to big charities.

With regards to your "unjust" comment this is what i was trying to find out, what do you consider to be an unjust charity.

Supposing that the people by whom i was approached yesterday were not agency workers, and given all the factors mentioned in my original post, how can i justify turning them down, or more importantly ANY CHARITY, because no matter who it was yesterday, if they had put there point across as well as they did and seemed as genuinely benevolent as these guys i would've have signed up.

The question i should have asked is, given this, am i now obliged to sign up to every charity that I'm approached by in the street? because it appears to me that in theory i am, and maybe rightly so!

[totalise]

The question i should have asked is, given this, am i now obliged to sign up to every charity that I'm approached by in the street? because it appears to me that in theory i am, and maybe rightly so!

Whether or not you give to charity should be governed by your own personal feelings on the planets well-being. If you care enough, then you willingly give to charity. If you dont care that much, then you shouldn't be made to feel guilty by the street peddlers trying to earn themselves a few quid. You shouldn't in my opinion ever need convincing to donate money, you should already know what/who you want to try and save/improve/help.

[Rod Paradise]

To be honest - I'm highly unlikely to sign up for a charity that bugs me in the street. I'll put coins in a collection tin, but the chuggers get on my Erthas. I'd a guy refuse to let me get a word in and start his Greenpeace speil - while I kept looking straight at him, then down at my Greenpeace t-shirt - then back at him until he realised - he appologised - I walked off. I also refuse to put in tins rattled round pubs - "I'M DRINKING - GO AWAY".

I prefer DD donations that go out of the account, get 28% tax relief back and do good - but I'll sign up online, and make sure more of the money goes to the charity.

[Rod Paradise]

The question i should have asked is, given this, am i now obliged to sign up to every charity that I'm approached by in the street? because it appears to me that in theory i am, and maybe rightly so!

Whether or not you give to charity should be governed by your own personal feelings on the planets well-being. If you care enough, then you willingly give to charity. If you dont care that much, then you shouldn't be made to feel guilty by the street peddlers trying to earn themselves a few quid. You shouldn't in my opinion ever need convincing to donate money, you should already know what/who you want to try and save/improve/help.

I'm not sure I like the tone of that - to decide to give because someone stops you on the street is nothing to do with your own personal feelings on the world's well being. To decide whether to give at all is. Also I think you'll find it's the folk with least that give more, so they have to decide whether they can afford to give every time.

[bolt pp]

The question i should have asked is, given this, am i now obliged to sign up to every charity that I'm approached by in the street? because it appears to me that in theory i am, and maybe rightly so!

 You shouldn't in my opinion ever need convincing to donate money, you should already know what/who you want to try and save/improve/help.

I care enough to "willingly" give to the nspcc but haven't sought out any other charity to donate to in the past.

My gathering of information about any particular group would have to have a starting point, why cant that starting point be in the street one afternoon?

I cant give to every charity, i wouldn't be able to afford it yet theres so much in the world that I'd like to improve, how does one go about prioritising these beliefs when each one analysed independent of the others is worth my charity?
(needless to say who i am will dictate what charities i feel more strongly about, though I'm mindful this does not depreciate the urgency of any other charity with whom i sypathise less).

[byronkincaid]

I'm not sure I like the tone of that

I'm not sure I like the tone of that

[Rod Paradise]

I'm not sure I like the tone of that

I'm not sure I like the tone of that

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[Graham C]

Nobody expects you to give to every charity.  If you feel you'd like to help with the ones that you may care about, then do so, don't feel under any pressure.  The people in the street don't give a toss about you, they're there to get you to sign up.

There's nothing wrong with getting a taste of what the charity is about from them if you want too, but I'd advise researching anything that may sound like your thing yourself too before signing up.

Don't let anyone put pressure on you or make you feel guilty mate

[totalise]

I'm not sure I like the tone of that -

the tone of what?

to decide to give because someone stops you on the street is nothing to do with your own personal feelings on the world's well being. To decide whether to give at all is.

that is what I was trying to say, I thought I was pretty clear.. guess not

Also I think you'll find it's the folk with least that give more

I think you'll find I dont care who gives more, whatever gave you the impression that it mattered?

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My gathering of information about any particular group would have to have a starting point, why cant that starting point be in the street one afternoon?

it can if you dont mind being accosted.. its a matter of personal taste. I take donating to charities quite seriously, so spend enough time researching where I dont need people to bug me to get a sign-up. For others its a different process.

how does one go about prioritising these beliefs when each one analysed independent of the others is worth my charity?

I guess you ask yourself which ones matter the most to you. If they matter to you equally, I have no idea at all how you would overcome that. Stick a pin in a list I guess

[byronkincaid]

I'm not sure I like the tone of that

I'm not sure I like the tone of that

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The phrase "I'm not sure I like the tone of that" is aggressive, argumentative, authoritarian and just a nasty thing to say IMHO to what was a perfectly reasonable post by Tote

[Rod Paradise]

I'm not sure I like the tone of that -

the tone of what?

to decide to give because someone stops you on the street is nothing to do with your own personal feelings on the world's well being. To decide whether to give at all is.

that is what I was trying to say, I thought I was pretty clear.. guess not

Also I think you'll find it's the folk with least that give more

I think you'll find I dont care who gives more, whatever gave you the impression that it mattered?

You came across as 'if you care - you'll give' - if that's not what you meant fair enough - it was the impression I got.

As for whether the poor give more than the rich, yes it matters. £1 from someone stuggling means they've thought about it, sometimes £1000 from a rich person is a gesture without any impact on them (extremes I know - but that was the point I was trying to make).