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« on: September 22, 2006, 09:57:05 AM »

im trying to rebuild my bankroll so went back to 0.10-0.25 blinds.i deposited $20 which gave me a nice cushion(or so i thought).i called a small pre flop raise with .

flop:

2 players still in and i called a small bet of $2.

turn:

i was obviously winning the hand still so only made a small bet again to keep some action

river:

i move all in and am called by 2 players who show    and 


i go broke again!im getting fed up with all these outdraws and am beginning to think online poker is fixed.
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2006, 10:01:56 AM »

Q: How did i lose this hand

A: i called a small pre flop raise with .

You flop a straight - but the dead end of the straight. If your calling a preflop raise and its a multiway pot then more than likely the flop has hit your opponents because there is more paint than a B&Q warehouse.
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2006, 10:05:44 AM »

i go broke again!im getting fed up with all these outdraws and am beginning to think online poker is fixed.

Yep - fixed well and truly. You've been stitched up like a kipper all for the sake of 50 cents rake.
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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2006, 10:33:29 AM »

im trying to rebuild my bankroll so went back to 0.10-0.25 blinds.i deposited $20 which gave me a nice cushion(or so i thought).i called a small pre flop raise with .

flop:

2 players still in and i called a small bet of $2.

turn:

i was obviously winning the hand still so only made a small bet again to keep some action

river:

i move all in and am called by 2 players who show    and 


i go broke again!im getting fed up with all these outdraws and am beginning to think online poker is fixed.

I'm playing that flop fast and strong, its the mug end of the straight with 2 to the flush on board.

The turns a disaster both pairing the board and bringing three to the flush, if you think your beat by now check, if you think your winning BET BIG!!!

Why did you move all in on the river when theres no hand calling that you could beat?

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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2006, 11:40:14 AM »

Forget what you are holding for a second and think what you might be against?


Small preflop raise- How much is small and from what position and who raised?
The hands you are against can be Aa/kk/qq/ak/aq/aj/kq/kj/pp/Ax/Qx/Kx  on low limit.


You have  so - called idiot end of the straight on the flop, with 3 big cards on the flop there is a possibility that you are against AK
the Q on the turn is not a good card for you as someone could made their full house, on the river anyone with A beats you anyway so your 89 is not very good anymore.

You flat call a small raise on the flop, where actually you should have re-raised to see where you stand .  At this point AK can beat you so u better find out whether you are against AK or try to take the pot then and there.

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I was obviously winning the hand still so only made a small bet again to keep some action
what makes you think like that?

It seems to me that you are only looking what you are holding instead of assessing the whole situation and trying to put a read on your opponents.


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i go broke again!im getting fed up with all these outdraws and am beginning to think online poker is fixed.

the truth you went broke because you have misplayed your hand, u let people to outdraw you and went all in on the river when you were beaten for 100% next time you should know when to muck you hand especially the lower end of the straight on the board like that
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2006, 12:17:10 PM »

It's someone taking the mick.
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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2006, 01:36:52 PM »

It's someone taking the mick.

was my first thought too - especially after the 66 post, but there are people out there who play in this manner and don't realize that they are making mistakes. Therefore by replying to the post seriously who knows maybe someone reading this thread will benefit.

However people will soon stop reading the poker hand analysis board if it becomes apparent that most of the threads aren't serious which is a great shame as there have been many pearls of wisdom shared amongst the blonde community.
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2006, 01:54:04 PM »

i can assure you i dont have the time or the inclination to be making up scenario's.what i have realised after making two posts is that i must have seriously overrated my poker playing abilities.i guess i was trying to play like i was on tv.thanks to eveyone who has posted constructive advice.i guess its back to the drawing board for me!
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2006, 02:02:41 PM »

Ok, the jokes over - who on here is pretending to be The Winner & In Form
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2006, 02:05:33 PM »

It's someone taking the mick.

We have a winner.

In Form and the The winner are 1 and the same, very amusing posts though.
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2006, 02:13:53 PM »

but are they aliases of someone too?  A more regular poster perhaps? 
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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2006, 02:17:54 PM »

im trying to rebuild my bankroll so went back to 0.10-0.25 blinds.i deposited $20 which gave me a nice cushion(or so i thought).i called a small pre flop raise with .

The fact you forget to mention position and the size of the raise suggests mistake number one may be that you haven't really taken these things into consideration. I have seen ppl at that level calling a raise of 3xBBs with 52o in early position because "it was just a small raise". Calling a raise with 89o is probably mistake number two. Are you familiar with the gap concept ? If so then you should realise that you are behind at this point and should generally fold.

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flop:

2 players still in and i called a small bet of $2.


Bingo. You have hit the flop hard and are probably ahead unless someone is slow playing AK. It is a dangerous looking board and the small bet of $2 is 8BBs. The two of them have a hand. Your opponents are likely to have both paired the board and have nut straight, flush and full house possibilites. You must raise here and not give your opponents the correct odds to draw out on you. I would raise the size of the pot here. Mistake number three is not raising here.

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i was obviously winning the hand still so only made a small bet again to keep some action


You are not obviously winning the hand. The turn was a horrible card for you. AK still has you beat and JQ, QT just overtook you and anyone on a flush draw has just glided past you aswell. There is a chance you are still ahead though so you must raise here to try and take down the pot now and find out where you are.

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This card is a complete disaster for you. Someone will have an Ace and has just made the nut straight. You should now be folding your hand as there is pretty much nothing you can beat.

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i move all in and am called by 2 players who show    and 


Or you can move all in and lose all your chips again. This push was even worse than the one yesterday with 66. At least with 66 against KK you had mibbe a 20% chance. Here you are completely dead in the water with a 0% chance of winning this pot.

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i go broke again!im getting fed up with all these outdraws and am beginning to think online poker is fixed.

I think you may be serious but you need to go and do some studying. Your play here is about as horrible as it gets. It is all learning but my advice to you would be to invest your cash in some good poker books before returning to the tables.

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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2006, 02:31:52 PM »

Are you familiar with the gap concept ? If so then you should realise that you are behind at this point and should generally fold.

Calling a raise with connectors has nothing to do with the gap concept. I have never heard it refferd to for a cash game hand aswell.
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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2006, 02:37:16 PM »

It's someone taking the mick.

We have a winner.

In Form and the The winner are 1 and the same, very amusing posts though.

who is 'in form'?
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2006, 02:39:21 PM »

It's someone taking the mick.

We have a winner.

In Form and the The winner are 1 and the same, very amusing posts though.

who is 'in form'?

 
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