Opinions please

[RED-DOG]

Sigh....


Whether you can buy in or not is irrelevant.

Whether I get a seat or not is irrelevant

The question was....... Oh, never mind.

[ariston]

Ok in answer to your question yes it is still value to qualify and your argument on the coin toss sums it up. To bring up the old argument (not sure if its been done on this forum) if someone did offer you 2-1 on the next flip of a coin how much of your bankroll would you risk Tom?

[thetank]

I'd risk all of it. Might win £30 

[RED-DOG]

All of it, but in 5% portions.

[ariston]

Thats not the offer Tom and you know it. You are allowed one go only and lets say you have a bankroll of 100k and I will give you 2-1 on the one spin of the coin- how much of your 100k would you risk?

[RED-DOG]

Thats not the offer Tom and you know it. You are allowed one go only and lets say you have a bankroll of 100k and I will give you 2-1 on the one spin of the coin- how much of your 100k would you risk?

80%

[12barblues]

To go back to the original question, the value in entering for the 'n'th time is exactly the same as the value the first time (ceterus paribollockus.....that means 'all other things being equal' for those who didn't study classical Greek  )

[RED-DOG]

I think tikay did, he talks a lot of paribollockus

[NoflopsHomer]

I think tikay did, he talks a lot of paribollockus

Wasn't he a Roman centurion in the Asterix books?

[ifm]

I think this thread needs to change direction...............

12barblues, WTF have you been??

[Karabiner]

Well it's really like any rebuy tourney, the last rebuy actually gets the most value because there is more in the pot.

That is one perspective anyhow.

[tikay]

To go back to the original question, the value in entering for the 'n'th time is exactly the same as the value the first time (ceterus paribollockus.....that means 'all other things being equal' for those who didn't study classical Greek  )

Yes, where HAVE you been? No sweat - welcome back. You've been much missed. Go take a look at Hand Analysis - my, it's grown up now!

[tikay]

OK. My argument is, each time you try, you are risking £300 to gain 1500. The value never changes.

Otherwise, It would mean that there would be no value in trying to qualify for the same event next year, Or for an identical event run by a different casino chain the following week.

If someone gave you 2/1 on the toss of a coin, and you lost the first three, would that mean the forth spin was poor value?

I agree.

Keep out of this - what would YOU know about odds & stuff?

[RED-DOG]

Well it's really like any rebuy tourney, the last rebuy actually gets the most value because there is more in the pot.

That is one perspective anyhow.

No its NOT like any re-buy tourney.

In this case you are starting anew from a level playing field. Not re-buying less big blinds than you did at the start, with a lot of big stacks to compete against, as would be the case with the last re-buy in a re-buy tourney

[tikay]

OK, the truth of this thread.

I manage to get my seat Online, after 1 live B & M failure. Tom went for his 2nd or 3rd attempt last night, no luck.

I said "well, I guess that's it Tom, it makes no sense to try again, you've done best part of £900 (or whatever) already, so you are getting close to the point where there is no value".

He replied - sort of, I think - "that's nonsense. If I had 20 attemots, at, say, £400 each, it would still be the same value if I tried a 21st time. Then he told me a story about a ship in dry dock. (He DID, I tell ya).

I struggled tgo get my head round this. Why risk, theoretically, let us say £8,000 to get in a Tourney with a theoretical seat value of, say, £1,500? And if you DID drop £8,000, is there any pouint in dropping another £400, then another, then another. At some point, surely, you have to say, "well, thats it, the value has gone".

And we argued to & fro all night. Eventually, we reached a compromise. I agreed he was wrong. He agreed I was wrong. He's a bit stubborn.