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« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2006, 03:26:53 PM »

I'd probably not try more than 3 times as it's not value for me anymore. Obviously overall it's value, but for me personally, there's no value in it.

Grrrr, that to me means you just dont know what value means!!!

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Well, it's still £300 for a £1500 ticket, I do appreciate that, but after losing 3, then it's £1200 for a £1500 which is still a nice saving of £300 if you can qualify on this attempt.

My personal view of value for things like this is generally having 1 or 2 goes at it and if I don't qualify, then so be it, any more and I'd may as well just bought in to start with.
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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2006, 03:27:46 PM »

Oh and remember, I only play low value touneys anyway, £300 is way way way out of my price range at the moment.
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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2006, 03:31:24 PM »



And, as if by magic, Tikay comes along to show us what value is...

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« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2006, 03:33:45 PM »

I'd probably not try more than 3 times as it's not value for me anymore. Obviously overall it's value, but for me personally, there's no value in it.

Grrrr, that to me means you just dont know what value means!!!

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Well, it's still £300 for a £1500 ticket, I do appreciate that, but after losing 3, then it's £1200 for a £1500 which is still a nice saving of £300 if you can qualify on this attempt.

My personal view of value for things like this is generally having 1 or 2 goes at it and if I don't qualify, then so be it, any more and I'd may as well just bought in to start with.

It is not possible to buy-in directly to the Grosvenor Grand Prix.

Even poker superstars like Tikay have to qualify if they want to play it.  Cheesy
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« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2006, 03:41:49 PM »

The point is that the seat is priceless!!

As you can ONLY qualify for the event, NOT buy in.

I have tried (and failed) twice, last one last night at Luton, down to 12 (they actually had 30 runners so 5 tickets). I have average stack and a guy is raising with rag aces AND showing, so when he raises my BB and I have AK, thats enough to re raise all in with (well apart from 200) he calls with A 10.

First card 10.

So in answer to the value question,,,,,, I think that the qualifier ALWAYS has value no matter how any times you try.

Just my 2p's worth.
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« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2006, 03:42:41 PM »

Ah didn't realise that you couldn't buy in, that does make a difference.

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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2006, 03:54:21 PM »

So far i reckon £2 is owed in BB stories Cheesy

I tried to qualify last year a number of times and decided to give up when it had cost me £1000.
This year i thought sod it, i'm not risking the £1000.
So basically i go by the risk v reward thingy, even if i had qualified at the last attempt last year i still need a good run in the comp.
Though i have a bit of a block when it comes to sats these days, i think the last one i got thru was about 2 years ago live!!!!!!!
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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2006, 04:11:17 PM »

OK. My argument is, each time you try, you are risking £300 to gain 1500. The value never changes.

Otherwise, It would mean that there would be no value in trying to qualify for the same event next year, Or for an identical event run by a different casino chain the following week.

If someone gave you 2/1 on the toss of a coin, and you lost the first three, would that mean the forth spin was poor value?



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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2006, 04:11:43 PM »

OK. My argument is, each time you try, you are risking £300 to gain 1500. The value never changes.

Otherwise, It would mean that there would be no value in trying to qualify for the same event next year, Or for an identical event run by a different casino chain the following week.

If someone gave you 2/1 on the toss of a coin, and you lost the first three, would that mean the forth spin was poor value?



I agree.
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« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2006, 04:14:17 PM »

OK. My argument is, each time you try, you are risking £300 to gain 1500. The value never changes.

Otherwise, It would mean that there would be no value in trying to qualify for the same event next year, Or for an identical event run by a different casino chain the following week.

If someone gave you 2/1 on the toss of a coin, and you lost the first three, would that mean the forth spin was poor value?



I agree.

It looks like you and me against the world bobby.

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« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2006, 04:19:02 PM »

OK. My argument is, each time you try, you are risking £300 to gain 1500. The value never changes.

Otherwise, It would mean that there would be no value in trying to qualify for the same event next year, Or for an identical event run by a different casino chain the following week.

If someone gave you 2/1 on the toss of a coin, and you lost the first three, would that mean the forth spin was poor value?



I agree.

It looks like you and me against the world bobby.



Eh? Nearly everyone in the thread agreed with you!
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« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2006, 04:20:51 PM »

OK. My argument is, each time you try, you are risking £300 to gain 1500. The value never changes.

Otherwise, It would mean that there would be no value in trying to qualify for the same event next year, Or for an identical event run by a different casino chain the following week.

If someone gave you 2/1 on the toss of a coin, and you lost the first three, would that mean the forth spin was poor value?



I agree.

It looks like you and me against the world bobby.



It is an odd problem and i think we must define the coin toss analogy more carefully. If someone offers 2-1 on the toss of a coin but tells you that you can only play until you win, what is the maximum number of losses you should accept?
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« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2006, 04:24:12 PM »

OK. My argument is, each time you try, you are risking £300 to gain 1500. The value never changes.

Otherwise, It would mean that there would be no value in trying to qualify for the same event next year, Or for an identical event run by a different casino chain the following week.

If someone gave you 2/1 on the toss of a coin, and you lost the first three, would that mean the forth spin was poor value?



I agree.

It looks like you and me against the world bobby.



Eh? Nearly everyone in the thread agreed with you!

Yes, but I wanted someone to point that out for the benefit of someone who shall remain nameless (tikay)
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« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2006, 05:17:31 PM »

OK. My argument is, each time you try, you are risking £300 to gain 1500. The value never changes.

Otherwise, It would mean that there would be no value in trying to qualify for the same event next year, Or for an identical event run by a different casino chain the following week.

If someone gave you 2/1 on the toss of a coin, and you lost the first three, would that mean the forth spin was poor value?



I agree.

It looks like you and me against the world bobby.



Eh? Nearly everyone in the thread agreed with you!

Yes, but I wanted someone to point that out for the benefit of someone who shall remain nameless (tikay)

ah ok.

He is a bit slow on the uptake, i understand. Although he did take me in a cash game last night, the mug!
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« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2006, 07:04:24 PM »

If you have decided on playing the event tom you have to keep trying to qualify until you do. You cannot put a price on the seat as you cannot buyin direct.
You know you will win a seat in the end as the numpties can't keep hitting (I assume it was a Tikay type player who called your raise with 72?).
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