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« on: October 13, 2006, 01:25:44 PM »

Such is the lifestyle, I went to bed at around about 7am last night.

I'm the type of big hefty lad who likes his 8 hours. I don't really like it when something wakes me up just 3 hours after I've entered the lovely land of nod.

That's exactly what happened at 10 o'clock this morning though. The missus woke me up in tears.

She isn't usually like this so early in the day. No stranger to tears naturally, but it typically takes a couple of glasses of red and an episode of Eastenders to get her into such a state.

So I dutifully enquired as to what the hey was going on.

It seems she is paying off a small council tax debt via a debt collecting agency, a messengers at arms type company. They had sent her a letter saying that her bank account was to be arrested, and money taken directly from her monthly paycheck. On top of this, they are charging her a £40ish account arresting fee.

She hadn't fallen behind in her repayment schedule or anything, she is due to to pay back £50 on the first of every month, and has not failed to make this payment or anything.

Her crime, was cancelling a direct debit last week. She decided she was no longer a fan of the whole direct debit thang, and to pay them manually instead.

The man at the debt collectors she'd phoned about this had made her upset. Very unsympathetic, not listning to her story, and hung up on her.

I looked at one of the earlier letters they sent her regarding the setting up of the direct debit. It says things like "you have the right to cancel the direct debit at any time" at no point does it say anything like the line the man on the phone was qouting her, that changing the payment type without prior notification may result in her account being arrested.

I understand they gotta do what they gotta do but it seems a rather extreme measure for one who has not missed any payments. It's nasty the way these types of places go about their buisness. They were still going to get their money, but seem to jump at any excuse to slap charges on the people they are collecting money from (who are obviously already in debt)

I've a good mind to phone em up myself and give 'em a piece of my mind make a sensible well mannered complaint while she's at work. Not sure if that would do any good, so I'm holding off for the moment.

Does anyone know if there is an independant watchdog like organization that you can complain to about the practice of debt collectors? Or is there anyway I can charge them £40 for making my missus cry and getting me out of bed 

With a letter saying "you have the right to cancel this direct debit at any time" I think she should have a leg to stand on, but am otherwise clueless in these matters.

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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2006, 01:30:58 PM »

Once you know who to complain to then you definitely should follow through a complaint. Bailiffs and Debt Collecting Agencies have been known to be a bit lax with keeping inside the law with the way they do things and this definitely sounds like the case here.
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2006, 01:36:53 PM »

These kind of companies will run roughshod over the law and your rights if they think they can get away with it.

When cancelling a DD  it's best to contact the company you've the DD with as well to assure them of payment by another method, but even so, they've feck all right to arrest the bank account. Citizen's Advice are VERY good at helping on this kind of thing.
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2006, 01:40:40 PM »

So she hasn't actually missed a payment?

She cancelled a DD, but they said that was OK?

What exactly are the grounds for their action?
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2006, 01:44:45 PM »

There's this

There's a code of practice concerned with debt collection. It's sponsored by the Credit Services Association whose address is:

Wingrove House
2nd Floor
Ponteland Road
Newcastle upon Tyne NE5 3DP
You can also contact them on 0191 286 5656
Email: mail@csa-uk.com (general enquiries) or complaint@sca-uk.com (complaints)

Just found it here http://www.bbc.co.uk/consumer/your_rights/credit.shtml

But CAB would be a good place to go too.  These people get away with all sorts, good luck in sorting it.
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2006, 01:46:38 PM »

thats disgraceful, I'm sure there must be an ombudsman or something you can complain to.
they have no right to do that.  I'd be upset too
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2006, 01:48:30 PM »

Ta folks.

Turns out there's a citizens advice shoppy two minutes away from the house. They're closed the now Sad but I'll go along on Monday.

Gonna kick some ass, and they can tell me how.
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2006, 01:50:58 PM »

A nicely worded letter, pointing out the bully boy tactics thier debt collectors are using, to the local council may not go amiss.
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2006, 02:11:26 PM »

The missus woke me up in tears.

I dont believe it, you play more than me, when have you met someone, lol
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2006, 02:43:54 PM »

you should check out the fool.co.uk dealing with debt forum.
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2006, 02:45:04 PM »

The missus woke me up in tears.

I dont believe it, you play more than me, when have you met someone, lol

He bought her with his Stars FPPs.
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2006, 03:01:23 PM »

baliffs themselves call their job legal theft.

They are scum of the earth and should be outlawed especially for civil debt.

They are doing that in your name as your tax dollars finance the courts who appoint them to collect tax debts. It should be a government run operation.

Look up the company on the internet and see if they are a member of the recognised body that regulates them, they have a full code of conduct and if they have broken any of it you can report them and they will drop the charges but they will still want the debt.


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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2006, 03:07:04 PM »

http://www.acea.org.uk/

are the regulaters in the uk but it is voluntary.


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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2006, 03:09:49 PM »

She's in debt to the council.  They've arranged a payback method for her via a collection agency.  She cancelled the direct debit, for reasons unknown, without telling them?

 
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2006, 03:13:02 PM »

Thankyou ACE2M.

Will hold off on that card till I've spoken with the peeps Smiley


they will still want the debt.


lol, should hope so too.  Cheesy
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