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Tank Maestro
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Two Poker Situations
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October 20, 2006, 01:36:28 AM »
I want to know how you would play AK in this situation, would you do same pre flop re raise and what would you do after flop.
Seat 1: cruellade (2010 in chips)
Seat 2: Costy (1420 in chips)
Seat 3: ROOKIE21 (1450 in chips)
Seat 4: padiddy (1430 in chips)
Seat 5: Mrrios (1980 in chips)
Seat 6: kieranmah (1081 in chips)
Seat 7: Billham (1476 in chips)
Seat 8: jontickle (1391 in chips)
Seat 9: wgfunk (1351 in chips)
Seat 10: L2theB (1430 in chips)
ROOKIE21: posts small blind 15
padiddy: posts big blind 30
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to cruellade [
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Mrrios: folds
kieranmah: calls 30
Billham: raises to 60
jontickle: folds
wgfunk: folds
L2theB: folds
cruellade: raises to 175
Costy: folds
ROOKIE21: folds
padiddy: folds
kieranmah: calls 145
Billham: calls 115
----- FLOP ----- [
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kieranmah: checks
Billham: checks
cruellade:
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Tank Maestro
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Re: Two Poker Situations
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October 20, 2006, 01:39:47 AM »
Secondly, would you call here being 95% sure he has 99 or TT
Seat 1: 6_figure (2035 in chips)
Seat 2: Bogarde (3200 in chips)
Seat 3: cruellade (2930 in chips)
Seat 4: jim bond (4125 in chips)
Seat 5: lukemoy (2964 in chips)
Seat 6: fastfoot (9071 in chips)
Seat 7: wgfunk (4038 in chips)
Seat 8: Gambler82 (5325 in chips)
Seat 9: larey1 (1370 in chips)
Seat 10: Tinylight (1008 in chips)
Gambler82: posts small blind 75
larey1: posts big blind 150
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to cruellade [
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Tinylight: folds
6_figure: calls 150
Bogarde: folds
cruellade: calls 150
jim bond: folds
lukemoy: folds
fastfoot: folds
wgfunk: raises to 870
Gambler82: folds
larey1: folds
6_figure: folds
cruellade:
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bolt pp
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Re: Two Poker Situations
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October 20, 2006, 01:41:00 AM »
Quote from: Tank Maestro on October 20, 2006, 01:39:47 AM
Secondly, would you call here being 95% sure he has 99 or TT
Seat 1: 6_figure (2035 in chips)
Seat 2: Bogarde (3200 in chips)
Seat 3: cruellade (2930 in chips)
Seat 4: jim bond (4125 in chips)
Seat 5: lukemoy (2964 in chips)
Seat 6: fastfoot (9071 in chips)
Seat 7: wgfunk (4038 in chips)
Seat 8: Gambler82 (5325 in chips)
Seat 9: larey1 (1370 in chips)
Seat 10: Tinylight (1008 in chips)
Gambler82: posts small blind 75
larey1: posts big blind 150
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to cruellade [
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Tinylight: folds
6_figure: calls 150
Bogarde: folds
cruellade: calls 150
jim bond: folds
lukemoy: folds
fastfoot: folds
wgfunk: raises to 870
Gambler82: folds
larey1: folds
6_figure: folds
cruellade:
?
insta fold
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bolt pp
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Re: Two Poker Situations
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October 20, 2006, 01:48:22 AM »
Quote from: Tank Maestro on October 20, 2006, 01:36:28 AM
I want to know how you would play AK in this situation, would you do same pre flop re raise and what would you do after flop.
Seat 1: cruellade (2010 in chips)
Seat 2: Costy (1420 in chips)
Seat 3: ROOKIE21 (1450 in chips)
Seat 4: padiddy (1430 in chips)
Seat 5: Mrrios (1980 in chips)
Seat 6: kieranmah (1081 in chips)
Seat 7: Billham (1476 in chips)
Seat 8: jontickle (1391 in chips)
Seat 9: wgfunk (1351 in chips)
Seat 10: L2theB (1430 in chips)
ROOKIE21: posts small blind 15
padiddy: posts big blind 30
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to cruellade [
]
Mrrios: folds
kieranmah: calls 30
Billham: raises to 60
jontickle: folds
wgfunk: folds
L2theB: folds
cruellade: raises to 175
Costy: folds
ROOKIE21: folds
padiddy: folds
kieranmah: calls 145
Billham: calls 115
----- FLOP ----- [
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kieranmah: checks
Billham: checks
cruellade:
This early in a stt?
I like the pre flop re raise and am definitely fireing the flop
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Re: Two Poker Situations
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October 20, 2006, 01:53:04 AM »
If its an STT with the AK I dislike the pre-flop raise, and definately don't like firing on the flop.
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Re: Two Poker Situations
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October 20, 2006, 01:56:19 AM »
Quote from: thetank on October 20, 2006, 01:53:04 AM
If its an STT with the AK I dislike the pre-flop raise, and definately don't like firing on the flop.
O.K, Imagine you did re-raise pre flop, you're not fireing that flop after its checked to you?
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Re: Two Poker Situations
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October 20, 2006, 01:56:26 AM »
I think it is a crypto mtt 1500 starting chips . I dont mind the play so far I dont bet the flop tho.
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Re: Two Poker Situations
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October 20, 2006, 02:02:15 AM »
Quote from: thetank on October 20, 2006, 01:53:04 AM
If its an STT with the AK I dislike the pre-flop raise, and definately don't like firing on the flop.
but it's a mtt, I still don't like the re-raise because you can't push people off anything on crypto early on with commiting most of your stack (and even then that's sometimes not enough! - I'll save my 50p for another time though
). Just call the min-raise because when you do hit, the smaller aces and kings always pay you off.
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Re: Two Poker Situations
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October 20, 2006, 02:08:44 AM »
If its a crytpo stt then i'm even more inclined to play it strong.
The guys that double the blinds from form early on a crypto medium level stt nearly always have a marginal hand kq, a10, ect, or an absolute monster and are willing to let everyone in with it.
I dont want a 5 handed pot with my AK even if it is early in a tourney, your in front pre flop and letting worse players catch up for free and losing the value of your hand, i want to isolate one player or make the guys that are willing to get there chips in to catch up pay to do so.
If theyre sesible players you can represent a big hand on the flop after the pre flop raise and make a medium pocket pair fold, conversly kq who loves his hand pre flop whatever the action will fold, if your behind they're more than happy to let you know!
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Re: Two Poker Situations
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October 20, 2006, 02:30:11 AM »
Quote from: bolt pp on October 20, 2006, 01:56:19 AM
Quote from: thetank on October 20, 2006, 01:53:04 AM
If its an STT with the AK I dislike the pre-flop raise, and definately don't like firing on the flop.
O.K, Imagine you did re-raise pre flop, you're not fireing that flop after its checked to you?
No, not against 2 opponents early in an STT.
Chips are to precious to be playing poker with.
I'll save them for the cinch double ups, and the free chips pre-flop later on.
If I'm in a game where I'll need to get involved like this, I'm in the wrong game.
Anyway, it's an MTT so yeah, hell yeah, fire in a 1/2ish pot sized bet on that flop.
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Re: Two Poker Situations
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October 20, 2006, 02:33:47 AM »
Quote from: NoflopsHomer on October 20, 2006, 02:02:15 AM
Just call the min-raise because when you do hit, the smaller aces and kings always pay you off.
Thats where I'm at.
The previous answer was
if
for some reason I'd re-rizzumed pre-flop.
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Re: Two Poker Situations
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October 20, 2006, 02:37:55 AM »
Quote from: Tank Maestro on October 20, 2006, 01:39:47 AM
Secondly, would you call here being 95% sure he has 99 or TT
Dunno how you get that kinda lock read online when he's just made one singular betting action pre-flop, but if you do, and you reckon theres a good chance he'll fold to an overcard landing on the flop, then yeah, hell yeah, call and push him off a flop he won't like the look of.
Do you trust your read enough to fold on a 59T flop?
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Re: Two Poker Situations
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October 20, 2006, 02:38:26 AM »
Quote from: thetank on October 20, 2006, 02:30:11 AM
Quote from: bolt pp on October 20, 2006, 01:56:19 AM
Quote from: thetank on October 20, 2006, 01:53:04 AM
If its an STT with the AK I dislike the pre-flop raise, and definately don't like firing on the flop.
O.K, Imagine you did re-raise pre flop, you're not fireing that flop after its checked to you?
No, not against 2 opponents early in an STT.
Chips are to precious to be playing poker with.
I'll save them for the cinch double ups, and the free chips pre-flop later on.
If I'm in a game where I'll need to get involved like this, I'm in the wrong game.
What about if you had AA?
your reasoning behind saying you wouldnt bet the flop after re raising pre flop makes me think that you havnt really embraced the idea that you've already re raised pre flop.
On that flop i play the hand like i had AA after its checked to me and ive re raised pre flop and if they can bt AK they'll be shipping there chips in screaming out the value of there hand with a check raise and i fold.
You have the equity of being able to represent a big pp after the pre flop action, which any half decent player will note and fold a meduim or small pocket pair.
If i get a flat call i'm giving the hand up, even if an ace or king drops because any strengh from my opponent there after will undoubtably be trips, A,10 or K,10
edit- lol just saw that you've edited and adressed the point raised in my first paragraph.
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Re: Two Poker Situations
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October 20, 2006, 02:56:42 AM »
That sounds a lot like poker to me.
You need to embrace the idea that this is an STT we're talking about, we don't play that game.
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Re: Two Poker Situations
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October 20, 2006, 12:28:11 PM »
In the first one I bet out 300 on the flop Billiham flat called then checked to me Turn was a J I check behind praying for a queen it comes a 4 and I give the pot up after he bet out, most likely he had TT.
2nd hand I called with the intention of taking it off him if flop came favourable I thought I had a hude edge knowing what his hand was but no need the flop came 544 and I doubled up through his 99.
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