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« on: October 24, 2006, 04:00:12 PM »

Nearly every hand history i read in this section is where the thread author got unlucky, lost a race etc etc.

Now Analysing and Bad Beats are two different things, Can't remember seeing one of these threads where the author was actually lucky.

I vote that only hand historys with some relevance to actually playing it right or not should be posted.

I know bad beats are frustrating. I get them and give them all the time! Its just frustrating reading these hoping to analyse them when in reality they are disguised bad beats.

For example - If you need to ask somebody if it was right to go all in with your aces pre flop and he/she called with kings and you lost then you shouldnt be playing!

Come on guys, at least give us a warning if its a bad beat!
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2006, 04:24:14 PM »

 

wonders how long it will take for people to react to the above post (though you have a point in some posts i have read lately more BB story then something to analyze)
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2006, 04:27:09 PM »

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Nearly every hand history i read in this section is where the thread author got unlucky, lost a race etc etc.

you obviously dont read the board very often then

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I vote that only hand historys with some relevance to actually playing it right or not should be posted.

I dont think this is relevant at all... there is a wide range of skill levels on this board, some complete beginners and some advanced players, it seems like you want the beginners to stop posting hands that might seem basic to you. Guess what, they aren't basic to the beginners.


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For example - If you need to ask somebody if it was right to go all in with your aces pre flop and he/she called with kings and you lost then you shouldnt be playing!

why dont you give us an example of a thread on here that actually might be pertinent to your point, instead of this nonsensicle fabrication? that comes back to the second point in here anyways... its not obvious to new players. If they post here, and get it explained to them thoroughly, rather then crap like "you shouldn't be playing" then they will learn for the future.

boards like this are what they are... it surely doesn't need people to try and arbite what is and isn't a good post. What it does need is people to read threads and comment on them if they have something positive to say, and keep quiet if they have nothing to say.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2006, 04:27:42 PM »

I just want some decent hands, at any stake level, to either analyse, or watch other people analyse. Im sure thats what this child board is for!
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2006, 04:30:35 PM »

Listen,

The stakes are uneccesary. The point im trying to make is that this board isn't for bad beats disguised as 'did i play this correct' hands.

I read this board every day, And i like to have an input and try and help people out if and where i can.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2006, 04:32:22 PM »

Ok, the top 7 threads are where people lost a hand.

Id like to comment on a hand where someone won a pot, maybe they were lucky, maybe they didnt maximise their winnings etc etc
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2006, 04:34:00 PM »

Ok, the top 7 threads are where people lost a hand.

Id like to comment on a hand where someone won a pot, maybe they were lucky, maybe they didnt maximise their winnings etc etc

may I suggest my one (and only thread) in which I flopped the set, found myself still behind and all that?.(got lucky in the end)..still no decent reply to it in the way of hand analyses...and it would have been greatly appreciated.

it's called sooted connectors what would you do? (or something similar)
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2006, 04:36:01 PM »

I'll have a butchers mate...
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2006, 04:55:02 PM »

As a relative beginner, I understand both sides of what you're saying.

I think the reason that many of the hands offered for analysis are 'bad beats' are because people aren't sure if it was a bad beat, or if they misplayed the hand and lost a bundle because of that.  Maybe people want reassurance that they actually played a hand OK and that they're not completely useless.  They're also the hands that stick in the player's mind the longest.

The other problem with more 'subtle' problems is that it relies on the poster to include all the relevant table information about how tight/loose the other players were, what the play had been like up to the hand in question, etc.  Otherwise the only advice that can be given is 'it depends'.

But yes, it would definitely be interesting to see a wider variety of hands for analysis, especially if the respected players on here are willing to spend their time giving out very valuable advice.

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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2006, 05:06:52 PM »

I agree with Kinboshi,

I think players (myself included) can misplay but win a hand and not know they've misplayed it. It is only when you lose a hand you start asking yourself questions.
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2006, 05:36:06 PM »

Some people are looking for advice on how to play hands differently, I know I have posted bad beats and hands wheer i was behind from the start, all to get advice on how I could have played a hand differently in order to win. 

Its strange this has come up as Thetank and I were having a similar discussion earlier in the week.
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2006, 06:01:39 PM »

Which board should we moan on then? We need to get it off our chest somewhere, my wife has no clue what I'm talking about if I tell her a bad beat story!!!
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2006, 06:06:58 PM »

I understand, It wasnt directed at you, or anyone in particular.

I know that hand with aces was terribly sick. With the money at stake etc its a sick beat in that sense.

Maybe we could have a bad beat child board?
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2006, 07:09:47 PM »

I was joking
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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2006, 09:27:49 PM »

From a personal point of view, I post on here very rarely.  When I do it's usually where I've lost a hand, but had a feeling I could have won it if I'd played it differently, and that's why I come for advice.  I guess that's the case for a lot of people.  I have taken to leaving the results of the hand off when I post though, after I posted recently genuinely looking for advice and it was construed as a moan.
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