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« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2006, 10:01:17 PM »


Dozen it always?
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« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2006, 10:53:38 PM »


I had to brace myself for that one...
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« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2006, 10:55:21 PM »


A brace is two silly... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2006, 10:57:57 PM »


Are you keeping score?
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« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2006, 11:08:21 PM »


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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2006, 06:45:03 PM »

What gets me is . how random are the hands , who supervises the tables , can someone determine who gets what Huh?

anyway I am finished with it , dont tust it , all my senses tellme its rigged


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« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2006, 06:57:34 PM »

What gets me is . how random are the hands , who supervises the tables , can someone determine who gets what Huh?

anyway I am finished with it , dont tust it , all my senses tellme its rigged


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You didn't answer my question - why is it rigged and who benefits?

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« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2006, 10:07:58 PM »

Here's an interesting slant on the potential rigging of online card rooms.
Let's say that only around 20% of online players turn a profit; statistics would back that up. If we then say that around 15% of players break even, that leaves 65% of players making a loss.
If you ran a card room with regular traffic amounting to say, 10,000 players, that would mean 6500 of them would be losing cash on a regular basis. Now let's say you had the facility to rig the software. Financially speaking, you want to keep the majority coming back at the risk of losing a few of the minority. So, every now and again you fix the software to reward the losing players in the knowledge that as they are losing players, they probably don't keep any records. That periodic 'big win' keeps them hooked.
Meanwhile, the winning players adhere to the belief that the long run will pay off for them, so they stick around too. And those breaking even most likely don't care either way.
The benefits are simple, the money is in the rake. More players, more hands per hour, more rake.

I don't believe this for one moment, but if a site was determined to hang on to players, what better way than to reward the regular losers periodically?
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« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2006, 10:29:53 PM »

aha - that explains my quarterly MTT win Cheesy
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« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2006, 09:27:07 AM »

why risk millions in profit from rake justfrom providing a service.
 I personally think the cards are more random than any self dealt card room game. how many cant shuffle, i also saw a pub poker game last week where the landlord dealt and every 3 or for hands he would move his card protector after the flop when he wasn't in the hand, if it went towards the pot then the more the guy opposite would bet his draws.

I also think alot of live players can't adjust to net play, the lose a feel for the pace, and need to see the opponent. Same way a net player has to adjust 1st time they go live.

ACTUALLY I THINK THIS IS TROLLING POST ANYWAY

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« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2006, 09:37:44 AM »

ACTUALLY I THINK THIS IS TROLLING POST ANYWAY


I don't think you're wrong...
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« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2006, 10:55:11 AM »

Here's an interesting slant on the potential rigging of online card rooms.
Let's say that only around 20% of online players turn a profit; statistics would back that up. If we then say that around 15% of players break even, that leaves 65% of players making a loss.
If you ran a card room with regular traffic amounting to say, 10,000 players, that would mean 6500 of them would be losing cash on a regular basis. Now let's say you had the facility to rig the software. Financially speaking, you want to keep the majority coming back at the risk of losing a few of the minority. So, every now and again you fix the software to reward the losing players in the knowledge that as they are losing players, they probably don't keep any records. That periodic 'big win' keeps them hooked.
Meanwhile, the winning players adhere to the belief that the long run will pay off for them, so they stick around too. And those breaking even most likely don't care either way.
The benefits are simple, the money is in the rake. More players, more hands per hour, more rake.

I don't believe this for one moment, but if a site was determined to hang on to players, what better way than to reward the regular losers periodically?

The poker rooms don't have to do anything to rig the cards - the nature of the game is that it rewards losers periodically anyway. Some muppet who goes all-in with A2 and gets called by the good player's KK will still win the hand three times in ten.
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« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2006, 11:03:29 AM »

Here's an interesting slant on the potential rigging of online card rooms.
Let's say that only around 20% of online players turn a profit; statistics would back that up. If we then say that around 15% of players break even, that leaves 65% of players making a loss.
If you ran a card room with regular traffic amounting to say, 10,000 players, that would mean 6500 of them would be losing cash on a regular basis. Now let's say you had the facility to rig the software. Financially speaking, you want to keep the majority coming back at the risk of losing a few of the minority. So, every now and again you fix the software to reward the losing players in the knowledge that as they are losing players, they probably don't keep any records. That periodic 'big win' keeps them hooked.
Meanwhile, the winning players adhere to the belief that the long run will pay off for them, so they stick around too. And those breaking even most likely don't care either way.
The benefits are simple, the money is in the rake. More players, more hands per hour, more rake.

I don't believe this for one moment, but if a site was determined to hang on to players, what better way than to reward the regular losers periodically?

The poker rooms don't have to do anything to rig the cards - the nature of the game is that it rewards losers periodically anyway. Some muppet who goes all-in with A2 and gets called by the good player's KK will still win the hand three times in ten.

hey! there's nothing wrong with going all in with A2! Billy shouldn't be calling with KK Wink
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« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2006, 02:30:55 PM »

ACTUALLY I THINK THIS IS TROLLING POST ANYWAY


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« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2006, 02:40:17 PM »

LOL just noticed your sig floppy

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