Seinfeld actor racist outburst

[thetank]

The kid has to look past the colour of William's skin, but he was probably going to do that anyway, just as he has seen past the colour of Billy's hair. He has just been taught by his wannabe liberal parents to treat black kids differently, so now he probably will.

Not if he was brought up by racist parents., then the skin colour will be the most important factor in describing William. I am grateful for my wannabe liberal parents, i would hate to be born in a racist and prejudiced family.


Why have you used a word 'wannabe' Tank? do I sense derogatory connotation?


as to Lenny Henry- sry but he is a bit famous, so saying Lenny Henry will be there would not pose a problem. You give a name of the famous comedian but the only thing to describe him is by his skin colour. I rest my case here.

Wannabe meaning well meaning, no not meant to be derrogatory. I just wonder sometimes that sometimes the act of treating a minority as special, in itself serves to do more harm than good. I'll leave that one though.

Mason has just hopped over from the states, he isn't familiar with Lenny's body of work, and no, the only way to describe him was not his skin colour.

b) Phone Mason, apologise quickly and tell him to look out for a very tall, well built chap with short dark hair and blue eyes, 40ish.

[thetank]

When I was in junior school (the 60's) it was less common to see as many different coloured skins around. My best friend Sarah was black - adopted into a white family so she should have been ever more obvious (if you see what I mean).

As a child I didn't see her colour at all and when I was asked to point her out once I said she was the girl in the green jumper. Bizarrely the only time we realised she was black was when we had to bring photos into school of us as babies in so we could guess who was who, and it's not until we saw a photo of a black baby we realised she was different.

I think a lot of the race stuff that goes on is fuelled by political correctness, making people more aware. Don't get me wrong - I am against any ism - racism and everything else - but the more we make an issue of things the worse it seems to get. Obviously outbursts such as that seinfeld guy and atrocious and should not be allowed and as much fuss should be made imho but the more politically correct we seem to be the worse the grass roots problems seem to come. Its as if race is the first thing on everyones mind.

 

[tantrum]

Wannabe meaning well meaning, no not meant to be derrogatory

A wannabe (sometimes spelled wannabee) is a person who likes to imitate, or even wishes to be, another, but cannot achieve it due to physical, psychological, financial, cultural, political, religious, or mental limitations. The term, a contraction of "want to be," entered the popular consciousness in the mid-1980s.


The term was first used in a July 6, 1981 Newsweek article on surfing that described novice surfers crowding the beaches as wannabees (as in, ‘I wanna be a surfer’).[1] The term was popularized by writer John Skow in a spring 1985 Time magazine on the pop star Madonna.[2] Skow used the construction "Wanna Be's" to describe the avid fans who sought to dress, talk and act like their idol. Other early uses of the term referred to "wannabe" gang members and "wannabe" bikers.[3]


In subsequent years, the contracted form of Skow's phrase — "wannabe" — came into wide use and took on something of a pejorative connotation. The term is associated often with ambitious and excessive zeal.


The term 'wannabe' is sometimes used derogatively to describe young fans of rap and alternative music, mainly by current or experienced fans of similar music.


People suffering from apotemnophilia, the desire to amputate a limb are also called wannabes.



language language language........  Now you see how a use of one word can be mis-interpreted.....  For me the connotations of the word wannabe are pejorative.

[ifm]

Ain't google just dandy......

[byronkincaid]

I wannabe a good poker player one day

[tantrum]

can't bothered to write tbh definitions of the words.

[thetank]

I don't think picking apart someone's language like that is anything less than pedantic. I'm tempted, but won't do the same to you (plenty to work with, especially with some of the earlier posts made about AndrewT.)

Anyway, I thought you'd rested your case

[ifm]

I have seen far worse in my time and don't understand how everybody can get so worked up over these things. Watch Eddie Murphy live or Richard Prior to see the same racism aimed at white people. Listen to Lauren Hills records and interviews to find that racism works both ways.

That's not comedy, or even a heckler put-down though. The guy loses the plot totally and unleashes a shocking tirade of racist abuse.

I've seen Eddie Murphy and Richard Prior and they are non-PC, but it's humour and they aren't just abusing a member of the audience.

2 Totally different things IMHO.

I have loads of Murphy, Prior, Rock, Cosby etc etc, maybe even all of it - never seen abuse like that towards a white person.

I'm sure i saw an interview once with Parky (i think) and he was asked who the worst interviewee he ever had was, he said Richard Prior because when he pointed to him he said something along the lines of "don't you point at me white boy" and was generally nasty the whole interview.

This may not have been parky, i'm off to google.............

[tantrum]

Anyway, I thought you'd rested your case

I have put away it in the case...
i was not picking on you, just illustrating the point about connotations

[Rooky9]

Subject is getting too difficult to discuss in the written form where it is more difficult to explain views.

It definatly is now!

time to let it die? If not I'm off for the popcorn!

[thetank]

i was not picking on you

Is there a "just bring it" smiley?

 ;bat;

[tantrum]

 ;bat;

ok ready

[thetank]

Or I could just read wikipedia while listning to a record over and over again. 

[tantrum]

You can listen to my music instead

 especially for you:


 

[BigTomatoes]

 wow , my first post in months and ive sparked a debate lasting 7 pages , this is a record for me and im chuffed.

 but i think enough has been said now and we should put this thread to bed.

 thank you