Correct ruling here?

[vinni]

the same thing happened to me in blackpool a couple of years ago ,the first card out was a six ,which would have given me trips ,but there was still one more to act ,so that card now became dead ,so i was hitting a one outer .
i was all in before the flop ,yhis was also the mane event

[rudders]

i remember this hand- it happened just behind me- you had just reraised kk allin-  the dealer started to deal the flop before you were called... everyone on the table agreed that you well and truly hard done by... sad thing is it still goes on..... as usual we have no conformity in our game

[vinni]

it will never happen ,but i hope they have a ruling through out europe ,which all clubs have to abide by .
this would be great as it would put everyone in the same boat ,its different for every casino .
a few weeks ago at wallsall one man raised ,i ask him how many chips he has left ,he shows me 3 chips totaling 2100  ,on the turn card he moves all in i call ,and turn my cards over he asks for a ruling ,he hid a chip .
    what i am saying is some casinos would have given him the ruling ,i saw this happen to rob young at sheffield ,where it was given to the other player because rob thought he was all in and exposed his cards .
   its about time something was done on these sort of situations .

[shortstack_itb]

When I make this cock up the burn card stands the exposed card goes to one side, i deal a burn for the river and the river card face down to keep the game as accurate as possible, i'll then take the exposed card and shuffle it back into the deck for a few minutes to give it a completley random chance of coming back out then deal it face down till betting is complete on that round of betting!

Chris

[vinni]

no disrespect shortstack but every card room should have the same ruling.

[Dani Versace]

??

OK was the turn card was see by anyone on the table,

If it was, the Grosvenor rule stats, Any card turn in error is to be replaced by the third one from the bottom, or in 6 card O, the second one.

Personally i think the card should be shuffled back into the deck and have a equal chance of coming out!

[TightEnd]

Personally i think the card should be shuffled back into the deck and have a equal chance of coming out!

why don't Grosvenors do this Dani? Is there a rules committee it can be brought in front of to change the existing rule or is it on a club by blub basis?

[Dani Versace]

There is a rules committee but the less said about that the better, or ill get myself in trouble.

Next subject PLEASE!!!!

[TightEnd]

There is a rules committee but the less said about that the better, or ill get myself in trouble.

Next subject PLEASE!!!!

cluck, cluck, cluck, cluck...scatters seed....cluck, cluck, cluck

[mex]

they should move the short stack

[Dingdell]

??

OK was the turn card was see by anyone on the table,

If it was, the Grosvenor rule stats, Any card turn in error is to be replaced by the third one from the bottom, or in 6 card O, the second one.

Personally i think the card should be shuffled back into the deck and have a equal chance of coming out!

Great rule - shame when we asked for a ruling this wasn't the answer given. 

[dik9]

actually its slightly different!

The burn card is correct that stays as it is.  The card which was brought out gets the chance to be shuffled back into the deck.  However what you do, is let betting commence exactly as what should have happened.  Let players call etc, then  do a burn card and get the river card out(in place of the turn) , let betting commence and calling,  then reshuffle the cards with the turn card
don't burn a card as its already happened and the 1st card out is the new turn card but a river card

Hope that makes sense, its much easier to do than explain it!