OK...what whould you do?

[Highstack]

No!

I am sure that your response was tongue in cheek, but to clarify, I would like a race to be the WORST possible sceanrio. AK v JT, I am not a massive favourite, but when not all in, I am favourite often enough to make it a worthwhile call. Ideal would be to find myself against Ax or Kx.

[byronkincaid]

Have you heard of poker tells and psychology?

nope, please explain further

[M3boy]

OT slightly I know but,,,,,, poker tells ans psycology :

Playing a cash game at Aspers, I am killing the table, winding everyone up, being the loud irritating type, and praying on the people who were obviously wound up by this - pure table talk .

There was this one hand, exact details I cannot remember, but it went something like this :

I am on the button - A5 (my hands not important till the end)

Player A raises to £10 preflop , 2 callers and I repot it (on the button) as I had many times before - sometimes with winning hands, sometimes with absolute filth!

Only playerA calls.

Flop 3 4 9.

Player A makes a continuation bet (well thats my take on it) and bets 3/4 the pot which I call

Turn K .

playerA now makes a week bet (£20 or something) - with str8 AND now a flush draw possible, my read was one of 10 10 or JJ and I think I can take the pot away here - he seemed scared of the king so I repot it.

He pushes all his chips in before I get my pot bet in.

Ooops, I think, I ask for a count to make it look like I am holding a strongish hand, but as it is only £16 more to call, I have to call.

PlayerA had KK in the hole - bad read from start to finish.

When the 2 hits the river, sent this guy mental! But more importantly I got paid off on neally every hand I hit from then on

[Royal Flush]

OT slightly

In the same way that Saddam was 'slightly' mean to the Kurds?!?!


Still a fcking funny hand.

[matt674]

OT slightly I know but,,,,,, poker tells ans psycology :

Playing a cash game at Aspers, I am killing the table, winding everyone up, being the loud irritating type, and praying on the people who were obviously wound up by this - pure table talk .

There was this one hand, exact details I cannot remember, but it went something like this :

I am on the button - A5 (my hands not important till the end)

Player A raises to £10 preflop , 2 callers and I repot it (on the button) as I had many times before - sometimes with winning hands, sometimes with absolute filth!

Only playerA calls.

Flop 3 4 9.

Player A makes a continuation bet (well thats my take on it) and bets 3/4 the pot which I call

Turn K .

playerA now makes a week bet (£20 or something) - with str8 AND now a flush draw possible, my read was one of 10 10 or JJ and I think I can take the pot away here - he seemed scared of the king so I repot it.

He pushes all his chips in before I get my pot bet in.

Ooops, I think, I ask for a count to make it look like I am holding a strongish hand, but as it is only £16 more to call, I have to call.

PlayerA had KK in the hole - bad read from start to finish.

When the 2 hits the river, sent this guy mental! But more importantly I got paid off on neally every hand I hit from then on

looks remarkably similar to a hand played in a cash game at BB1...............

 

[M3boy]

LOL James
LOL Matt - yes it does, but the end result of the night was vastly different , I am pleased to say

James, it was one of those sessions where I could do no wrong, every hand I had stood up, every play at a pot worked, every 'seemingly' play at a pot i made (when holding the nuts) got paid off.

Definately a sick sick session.

I did have to take a young lad aside after relieving him of his £200 in 3 hands (not bad for a £1 £2 p/l game) and explain to him that my talk was all table talk and he should take nothing personal - especially at a cash game - I think he got the message

[kinboshi]

LOL James
LOL Matt - yes it does, but the end result of the night was vastly different , I am pleased to say

James, it was one of those sessions where I could do no wrong, every hand I had stood up, every play at a pot worked, every 'seemingly' play at a pot i made (when holding the nuts) got paid off.

Definately a sick sick session.

I did have to take a young lad aside after relieving him of his £200 in 3 hands (not bad for a £1 £2 p/l game) and explain to him that my talk was all table talk and he should take nothing personal - especially at a cash game - I think he got the message

It wasn't a cheap lesson for him!

When you say 'table talk'  what exactly did you say to people?  Were you abusive, or just loud and alightly obnoxious?  It's definitely a ploy I've seen used to good effect - many times online.  Not something I employ (yet), but it's interesting to look at it from both sides and work out a strategy against it as well.

[M3boy]

In no way was I abusive. I do not condone abbusive behaviour.

I was VERY loud and "in people's faces" - basically winding them up whenever I could. "you cant call this bet" "call and if you loose I will lend you £100 if you like" etc... etc...

I find this does indeed work well in live cash games, the table dynamics were perfect as well. Mainly rocks who hardly ever raised and 2 people I considered to be able to "play" poker rather than the cards.

Constantly raising ALWAYS annoys a table of limpers. THEY make the mistakes. I reep the benefits.

The young lad in question was sure I was bluffing - which I wasnt. I am also sure he would not have committed such a large amount of money on the strength of TPTK but he wanted to beat me badly!! His emotions got the better of him, which is the idea of speech play

[Canuck]

No!

 I would like a race to be the WORST possible sceanrio.

Totally what I was getting at by saying 'hoping'

I know that I am either dominating him. ie A rag, K rag or I am racing up against a pp.
I am hoping he turns over A9 or KQ but even with 77 88 99 I obviously have a chance. I knew it was one of these, just 'hoping' it was the former

When I said I was one of the better players what I meant was that I felt I could pick better spots in which to play my chips. As in if I was playing Phil Ivey hu and this same hand occured it is a no brainer, I call diminishing the skill factor and increasing the luck factor. If I am playing a complete beginner hu I fold and try to play small pots or large ones when there are some board cards.