"Standard of Live Poker" Response

[MadYank]

I understand Blonde is a "nice" place and am fully onboard with that concept.
That said, I really can't understand how this post was not flamed to death by "real" poker players.
At a minimum it should be regarded with complete disdain IMO. This type of thing leads to a really bad shift in player's attitudes and a "I am better than you!" way of thinking which is the surest way to not only drain the fishtank but kill the fish directly.

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=17549.0

These are just a few of the tastier nuggets from this post.

"a certain european number 1"
"Established players?"

Do you start with 3 cards instead of 2 because you are established?
Do you deserve to win because your established?

Give me a break! What a load of bollocks!


"you reraise to find out were you where"
LOL You state this as if it is a meaningful/correct strategy. LOL

"we are trying to make a living  these people have no idea what they are doing .........so scary"
How should I read this? Everyone who pays into a tournament owes you something? Did you pay their buy-in to the tournaments? If not, what justification could you have for telling them how to play with their money?


"clueslles callers of the reraise who then go all in by leading out , even though they havent got a clue where they are"

IOW you don't know where you are, and it just ain't fair!


Summary:
If you have chosen to play poker professionally (or even semiprofessionaly) then DEAL WITH the variance and shifting styles of play in the game. If you can't adapt your game to overcome or compensate for the variance perhaps you should be more worried about how you play and worry less about what other players are doing with their money.

[Royal Flush]

 

[thetank]

We took the piss out of his last post though (the one about the burger eating yanks)

It was his turn.

[TightEnd]

May I be the first to welcome this post with a resounding   ?


thanks


p.s The variance in UK festival poker at the mo is much bigger than the recent past, I totally agree. Personally I am struggling to adjust to it. Compositions of fields have changed and there is a definite "gamble to get chips early or get out" mentality

[vegaslover]

Very similar to a lot of net tournies Tightend. Plenty of gamble.

As has been mentioned, the styles of play in tournies has never been more varied. It's up to players to adapt to this. That may mean finding other tournies which carry more profitable situations.

[Royal Flush]

The problem can also be some people do not know when they have been outplayed.

Some of the most successful players in the world would be labled fish from the viewpoint of their opponents, people like Negreanu and Hansen

[MadYank]

The problem can also be some people do not know when they have been outplayed.

Some of the most successful players in the world would be labled fish from the viewpoint of their opponents, people like Negreanu, MadYank, and Hansen

FYP

[MadYank]

The problem can also be some people do not know when they have been outplayed.

Some of the most unsuccessful players in the world would be labled fish from the viewpoint of their opponents, people like Negreanu, MadYank, and Hansen

FYP

oops missed a bit. 

[Royal Flush]

pmsl

[Longy]

Well said that man, i took that whole thread really to be a vent.

I mean why on earth would you not want to play bad players, live mtt's have almost the biggest varience of any form of poker, you can go a few months having bad luck and you prob have only played 10000 hands (estimate) i have had runs in Internet cash of 10k hands breaking even or losing and overall im a clear winner long term.

Poker is about adjusting to opponents not playing the same way and picking up the cheque at the end. Pros in the states have started to adjust and the better ones are overcoming large fields and making more than ever. Allen Cunningham ring any bells.

[M3boy]

Mad, nice to see my point of view on that topic is shared by you.

BUT - you must really learn to say what you mean WITHOUT beating around the bush!! lolol

Great post m8 - more honesty is what we need here

[I KNOW IT]

Having bad players should be encouraging to play the game, I mean Flushy is the main reason Ive got to learn to play omaha.

[tantrum]

Summary:
If you have chosen to play poker professionally (or even semiprofessionaly) then DEAL WITH the variance and shifting styles of play in the game. If you can't adapt your game to overcome or compensate for the variance perhaps you should be more worried about how you play and worry less about what other players are doing with their money.

To all the whiners out there - print this out - put it on your wall, keep it as a quote of the week

Some of the most successful players in the world would be labled fish from the viewpoint of their opponents, people like Negreanu and Hansen

 tv distorts reality

[tikay]

GREAT thread!

And yes, Mr F, the original thread WAS seriously flamed, so much so that some deletion was necessary.

[Royal Flush]

Summary:
If you have chosen to play poker professionally (or even semiprofessionaly) then DEAL WITH the variance and shifting styles of play in the game. If you can't adapt your game to overcome or compensate for the variance perhaps you should be more worried about how you play and worry less about what other players are doing with their money.

To all the whiners out there - print this out - put it on your wall, keep it as a quote of the week

Some of the most successful players in the world would be labled fish from the viewpoint of their opponents, people like Negreanu and Hansen

 tv distorts reality

Are you saying you do not think Negreanu and Hansen are good NL holdem tournament players?