Let's play a hand HU

[SupaMonkey]

Check for me too.

[boldie]

Having seen how popular the format of snoopies "Let's play a hand" is I thought I'd do the same for a HU game.
Also because I think it makes for just about the most interesting hand analysis.

Taken from a 200$ HU Sit and Go.

A bit of back ground;

Player A has the button, has been fairly tight as far as you can be tight in a HU game. Both are back to about equal chips so if the chips were to fly in the middle of this one and you lose you have essentially lost the game.
Player B has started to adapt to player A's game. He was very lose, raising every button he had but has now started to slow down a bit. Whether this is because he has figured player A's style out or not you don't know. You have no notes on this player and you are player A. Raises haven't been out of order, as you would expect in a decent size STT.

Blinds are 25-50

Player A;   
(On the button) Raise?, Call? (God Forbid) Fold? and if Raise, how much?

Sorry to young mr ITB. 2000 chippies each (actually 2040 player A and 1960 player B)

Action player A; with

Raise to 200

Player B

Re-raises to 400.

Player B has not yet made this move, but using his description above of what he's done before (we haven't played that many hands yet and you don't have notes) two questions.

A; What range do you put him on. (admittedly quite tricky HU) Is he stealing or does he actually have something?

B; Call, Fold, or reraise?

 

edit* mistake on my part 2k chippies each (that's what I get for doing it from work from the top of my head.)

OK...

PlayerA calls. This means you have 1600 (about) chippies left back.

flop;

 


Player B who's first to act; Checks.

What's your action here?

Action, you raise 350 which means you have 1250 back.

Player B; Flat Calls.


Turn;

Player B; Check.

What's your action?

[lazaroonie]

standard fold here....

[Royal Flush]

After yet again miss clicking on the flop i change the batteries in my mouse (a probable error) then i check the turn now i have the fd.

[doubleup]

I push here.  I think his actions indicate weakness ok he could be slowplaying a monster but I even then I have outs.  Pushing puts him to the test and I'm sure takes down the pot more than half the time.

[SupaMonkey]

I like doubleup's play provided my oppo isn't a fish however, i wouldn't have played the hand this way.

Boldie can i ask, why did you bet the flop. Couldn't you have checked and then raised his turn bet. After your pf raise you can still represent the ace on the turn and a strong turn raise surely puts pressure on a weak ace.

[boldie]

I like doubleup's play provided my oppo isn't a fish however, i wouldn't have played the hand this way.

Boldie can i ask, why did you bet the flop. Couldn't you have checked and then raised his turn bet. After your pf raise you can still represent the ace on the turn and a strong turn raise surely puts pressure on a weak ace.

Yes you can...I'm not playerA I'm player B.

Player A is actually quite a decent player HU and he and I had a long talk about this hand. I fully understand why he bets pre-flop the flop and the turn...
I will post his reasoning about the complete play of the hand later on with an explanation as to where I think he went wrong (because he did/does). By now he should already have put me on the hand I had as we have played a lot together. I am leaving work pretty soon and will post the conclusion of the hand later today...tommorow I will also stick an analysis of the hand up as it actually is a fairly interesting one.

[SupaMonkey]

 

[boldie]

Having seen how popular the format of snoopies "Let's play a hand" is I thought I'd do the same for a HU game.
Also because I think it makes for just about the most interesting hand analysis.

Taken from a 200$ HU Sit and Go.

A bit of back ground;

Player A has the button, has been fairly tight as far as you can be tight in a HU game. Both are back to about equal chips so if the chips were to fly in the middle of this one and you lose you have essentially lost the game.
Player B has started to adapt to player A's game. He was very lose, raising every button he had but has now started to slow down a bit. Whether this is because he has figured player A's style out or not you don't know. You have no notes on this player and you are player A. Raises haven't been out of order, as you would expect in a decent size STT.

Blinds are 25-50

Player A;   
(On the button) Raise?, Call? (God Forbid) Fold? and if Raise, how much?

Sorry to young mr ITB. 2000 chippies each (actually 2040 player A and 1960 player B)

Action player A; with

Raise to 200

Player B

Re-raises to 400.

Player B has not yet made this move, but using his description above of what he's done before (we haven't played that many hands yet and you don't have notes) two questions.

A; What range do you put him on. (admittedly quite tricky HU) Is he stealing or does he actually have something?

B; Call, Fold, or reraise?

 

edit* mistake on my part 2k chippies each (that's what I get for doing it from work from the top of my head.)

OK...

PlayerA calls. This means you have 1600 (about) chippies left back.

flop;

 


Player B who's first to act; Checks.

What's your action here?

Action, you raise 350 which means you have 1250 back.

Player B; Flat Calls.


Turn;

Player B; Check.

What's your action?

Player A checks

River


Player B pushes.

Player A now has 2 pair and calls.

Player B turns over his trip Aces and takes the hand down.

[Royal Flush]

I think both players played this really badly will post more when i have a bit more time.

[boldie]

Player A reasoning amounted to;

I raise pre-flop because I'm on the button. I am more then happy to call your prelfop min raise as my hand allows it to (Suited connectors and probably two live cards). I have also represented the ace, as I have established a tight image in the first hands. I, ofcourse, also have enough chips behind to see what happens on the flop.

When the flop comes down and you check it, I can bet it. I could do this whether or not I have part of the flop but in this case a; I hit it and B; as stated before, I have represented the Ace.

I want to take the pot there and then. I take you for a hand after your min raise but I also want to see if I am behind. I would expect you to reraise me if you hold a high ace. What I do NOT want to do is give you a free turn card.
When you call I'm not happy about it BUT it's OK as soon as the turn comes down.

The turn gives me the FD, and you checked it to me. I could have lead out here (pushed) as I have enough outs should you be ahead. However I don't like your min-raise and flat call on the flop now so I now take a free card.

I miss the flush but hit two pair on the river and you, who has only flatcalled uptill now could just have a high ace. I can therefore call your river push.

I never took you for the trip aces here as you min raised me on the flop. You don't do this with pocket aces and this threw me off also because you were fairly loose in the first few hands and only tightened up after a while, You could be switching gears again by min-raising/re-raising everything I do.

[Sunday8pm]

I want to know where i can find these $200 heads up games

[boldie]

Player B (Me) reasoning behind it.

I have found a monster hand pre-flop and he has raised from the button. I could flatcall here but I also know he is VERY likely to call my min-raise. It might scare him a bit but it's worth getting some more in pre-flop and he won't put me on what I hold now.

The flop comes down and I've hit my trips. I am up against a guy who has been playing fairly tight thusfar and there's no need for me to bet this as I have what, at this time is the nuts.

He raises 350, he must have some part of this flop. I can reraise him but the ace is likely to scare him off calling there so I'll just flatcall.

The turn comes another seemingly innocent little card and therefore I can check-call/check raise here. So I check. there's still no need for me to bet this.
He then checks. I am not happy about this; He could now have two pair and maybe he's missed the flop completely and was having a stab at it on the flop. No, this doesn't match with his game. He is concerned about something here and my flatcall on the flop has scared him a bit. Ah well, nothing I can do about it now.

The river comes down and the back door FD is not there. As I have put him on having hit the flop in some way he also won't hold the straight and therefore I am still ahead.
When I checked the turn he didn't bet it, so I can't check again as he could check aswell.

I therefore push, with the pot this size it's the only bet that could make sense. I could bet 400 but that's more likely to scare him off then a push will as 400 into this pot will look suspicious.
He calls and shows me his two pair. I got lucky that he hit his ten on the river and therefore felt he could call but it does go to show that if I had lead out on the flop after my min reraise he would have folded.

[boldie]

I think both players played this really badly will post more when i have a bit more time.

cool

[Royal Flush]

I want to know where i can find these $200 heads up games

Glad i ain't the only 1, i thought Tribeca was soft!