Is this a correct call

[boldie]

The best situation you can hope for is two unpaired lower cards. Ok its his most likely holding, but why take the chance with A3? what are you beating? You are either dominated or a small favourite. Did you spend hours accumulating chips to at best race off in this spot?

He has to call 66k to win 114k and he thinks he is ahead.

I know a lot of people on blonde think they have these amazing edges where they can pass AA pre flop and all that but come on, this is an auto call if he thinks he is ahead.

Very true flushy, but he has A3 not AA!

Sure he MIGHT be ahead, but this is not the hand to go broke on. He has asked a question and ben given an answer. I hate the initial raise, so I am not compounding the error by going broke when all I am doing is gambling and hoping. 66k is still 11bb and the blinds through, so still a very playable stack.

that would be my reason for folding here. I won't risk my tourney on an A3 pre-flop.

[Royal Flush]

It's not about "not going broke" or "risking my tourney with A3"

The point of playing tournaments is to try to make decisions that maximise your return, folding here is going to lose you a lot of $ here in the long run.

[Highstack]

I totally disagree here. This is not about pot odds and it is pure gambling and hoping you're ahead.

If he has a hand you're in trouble and I always hate calling in any situation unless I'm very sure that I'm in front. You win this you win a good pot, but not the tournament, lose it and you're out.

[Royal Flush]

I totally disagree here. This is not about pot odds and it is pure gambling and hoping you're ahead.

If he has a hand you're in trouble and I always hate calling in any situation unless I'm very sure that I'm in front. You win this you win a good pot, but not the tournament, lose it and you're out.

If you read the original post he states that he feels he is ahead. Getting just short of 2-1 with the best hand is an auto call.

[Highstack]

Its preflop he has A high and no kicker.

[Royal Flush]

Its preflop he has A high and no kicker.

What does that matter if he thinks he is ahead?

[Highstack]

Come on , you know that you pass this all day long, but you don't want to back down now. How can he possibly think he is ahead? The biggest donk in the world is entitled to receive a hand at times.

He does not think he is ahead, but he has an ace which is obviously a better than average heads up hand. He is gambling and hopes he is ahead. A reraise here will often have at least Ax and have you in all kinds of trouble. Obviosuly all could have been avoied by not committing 24k to begin with, but you are still allowed to let go.

[Royal Flush]

He does not think he is ahead

He said he does!!

I have already said this is not how i play it, but should i find myself in the situation where i think i am ahead and am getting 2-1 my chips are in the middle instantly.

I think the limp re-raise is the best play here.

[Highstack]

I also read that he said that, but you are taking my post out of context. I am questioning however, that the op did think at all and just hoped on the strength of his A high. Big difference between reasoned thought and shutting your eyes. I also wouldn't mind so much if he had the option to get them in first, I just think calling in this situation is horrible.

[Royal Flush]

If you see he has JT do you call?

[Highstack]

Probably, yes .... but until I see it, I don't believe he has JT. Even then I will still be eliminated more often than I like to in this spot.


That said, it would always be difficult to give up when you KNOW that you are almost 2/1 favourite which is vastly different over a speculative hopeful that at best you are 2/1 fave and could be a whole lot worse off.

[Royal Flush]

Probably, yes .... but until I see it, I don't believe he has JT. Even then I will still be eliminated more often than I like to in this spot.

Probably? How big an edge do you need to for you to call 66k with 114k in the pot?

[Highstack]

!!!!!! DID I SAY NO? I'm sure you are just looking to save face here and after a get out clasuse - either that or have a row.

The simple truth is and you know as well as anyone, that chips do not need to be accumulated in tournament play by getting all in preflop or by winning races (even races as a marginal or bigger favourite).

It is much safer and wiser to get them in on your terms, in spots you choose (unless short and forced or committed to a pot), to build them gradually, if possible uncontested and against stacks smaller than your own. Even as a huge favourite here, you will be eliminated from one tournament in three.

[Royal Flush]

Sorry i meant to insta call.

I am not trying to save face, if i have the best hand and 2-1 i am never passing, it would be financial suicide to do so

[ifm]

I had an almost identical situation the other day, KNEW i was ahead with ace high and indeed i was, lost the hand