Do I go busto here?

[sharpy]

  Lucky25 previously had sucked out a flush after he pushed on a flop with a draw.

  Does anybody else find a call here?

   Game #2838641083: Hold'em NL ($0.50/$1) - 2006/12/20 - 20:38:37 (UK)
Table "Steelton" Seat 5 is the button.
Seat 1: Kasparoso ($102.25 in chips)
Seat 2: Mortgamst sits out
Seat 3: sharpy ($144.25 in chips)
Seat 4: Jammy_jim ($103.25 in chips)
Seat 5: andysan ($99 in chips)
Seat 6: Lucky25 ($165.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Cymru7 ($49 in chips)
Seat 8: Thehorror ($102.75 in chips)
Seat 9: Carll147 ($103.40 in chips)
Seat 10: Bonehead1 ($87.88 in chips)
Lucky25: posts small blind $0.50
Cymru7: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to sharpy [ ]
Thehorror: folds
Carll147: folds
Bonehead1: folds
Kasparoso: folds
sharpy: raises to $3
Jammy_jim: folds
andysan: folds
Lucky25: calls $2.50
Cymru7: folds
----- FLOP ----- [ ]
Lucky25: bets $10
sharpy: raises to $40
Lucky25: raises to $162.50 and is all-in
sharpy ??


What would anybody else do??

[doubleup]

Why did you reraise so much on the flop?  As a general principle you should avoid raising in NL unless you have a pretty good idea what you are going to do if reraised. 

If he has a big draw, you have allowed him to get all the money in on the flop which is what he wants. 

As played I would have to call because the pot is now too big and a draw is a possibility.

[boldie]

I don't like this board at all really. Without having some decent info on Lucy I might consider folding here. In all I'd expect them to turn over a monster draw but a draw nonetheless and might call but I don't like it one bit. He/she could even have AA-KK.

The longer I think about it the more I think I'd have to be behind..but also wouldn't like the fold one bit.

It really depends on Lucy and what he/she's been playing with...but for now I'll say call. (which is very likely to be the wrong thing to do here)


Pre-flop, why only raise to 3 BTW?

[Paullie_D]

Personally, I can't see a call.

He's called your initial raise, bet out on the flop and then pushed on your re-raise...other than a draw what could be have?

Let's face it, you're only in it for a little and you're beaten by so much here (AA, KK, TT, 99, T9) (88 is also a dangerours possibility).  If he wants to go all-in on a draw then good luck to him but I say FOLD. The value just isn't there.

[Suited_Jock]

I can find a fold here...

Certainly there will be better spots to get all your money in

[Highstack]

Pass

If he is at it, then you are likely to get another spot. What are you beating? Probably only a strong draw or JJ. I couldn't be comfortable calling here unless I had prior knopwledge of similar moves by this opponent.

[Nem]

I would fold.

[snoopy1239]

I would have called the Flop.

Given what happened, I'd fold. At worst, he has a nice draw.

Finally, it may be worth raising more pre-flop to better define your hand.

[theplayer_uk]

immediate flop call...........

so easy

[theplayer_uk]

I would have called the Flop.

Given what happened, I'd fold. At worst, he has a nice draw.

Finally, it may be worth raising more pre-flop to better define your hand.

how does raising more define our hand more?

Also we don't really want to define our hand. If we raise more it would be for value

[sharpy]

  Thanks for the response guys.

  Looking back on the hand I should have realised that his overbet on the flop meant he was trying to protect his hand,which also meant I was behind.

  At the time I thought he was on a Flush Draw,that's why I raised it to $40.After his re-raise all-in,it was obvious I was beat,but like the Fish I am I couldn't fold.

  He had the bullets buy the way.

[theplayer_uk]

this is an easy call, folding is baaaaaaaaaad

[snoopy1239]

I would have called the Flop.

Given what happened, I'd fold. At worst, he has a nice draw.

Finally, it may be worth raising more pre-flop to better define your hand.

how does raising more define our hand more?

Also we don't really want to define our hand. If we raise more it would be for value

If you raise to $2, then practically any hand can call you, if you raise to $144.25, then only Aces or Kings will call you. The more you raise, the easier it is to know where you stand.

[snoopy1239]

this is an easy call, folding is baaaaaaaaaad

On this occasion, you would have lost your entire stack.

[sharpy]

  The reason I raised to only $3 was because a) It was a standard raise for the table that got rid of most of the chaff,b) with pocket queens I am going to want a bit of action,maybee this is not quite the right way to go about pocket queens but I'm living and learning as they say.