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« Reply #60 on: December 24, 2006, 03:20:00 AM »

this is the hard part, It is hard to explain in a post and it is opponent and game dynamic specific.

Most of the time it is a river fold unless your opponent is too aggressive. In most cases this is not true and I think that the river bet is usually for value.

I think DC misplayed 2 streets in this hand. One pretty badly and one very badly.

Nope dont agree, only 1 street....the turn bet wasn't good
my excuse is that rob yong was teaching me to play 6 tables at once
However, plan B pulled me thru

what do you think is good about the flop call?

Instead of being openly critical, why don't you give your reasons for folding instead?
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« Reply #61 on: December 24, 2006, 09:30:36 AM »

We had only played a few hands together when these hands came up, DC's stats are from the end of the session. Also I play different when I'm trying to stack DC with 100BBs than when I'm 10 tabling with 20 BBs a table trying to get a load of MPPs so I win a trip to Vegas.
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« Reply #62 on: December 24, 2006, 04:10:00 PM »

reasons for folding is that byron often has JJ crushed when he re-raises OOP and then bets this flop.
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« Reply #63 on: December 24, 2006, 04:34:54 PM »

seems like pretty good table selection tbh. All those players are on my friends list.

In the AA hand re-raise more preflop given that you are OOP and a psr is 52 anyway.
c/c the turn and re-eval river.

Seat 1: Tommyhill sits out
Seat 2: Snaps001 ($618.84 in chips)
Seat 3: -Gotcha- ($679 in chips)
Seat 4: colclough ($561.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Alkaline ($403.25 in chips)
Seat 6: KautoStar ($804 in chips)
Snaps001: posts small blind $2
-Gotcha-: posts big blind $5
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to -Gotcha- [As ]
Tommyhill sits back
colclough: raises to $15
Alkaline: folds
KautoStar: folds
Snaps001: folds
-Gotcha-: raises to $45
colclough: calls $30
----- FLOP ----- [ ]
-Gotcha-: bets $70
colclough: calls $70
----- TURN ----- [ ][]
-Gotcha-: checks
colclough: bets $166
-Gotcha-: calls $166
----- RIVER ----- [ ][]
-Gotcha-: checks
colclough: bets $280.50 and is all-in

hmmm didn't like the way this betting went at all. the flatcall on the turn where I would have shoved. the J is a card you don't want to see if, like me you take him for an overpair to the board he could now have the full house.
However he could also take you for a busted FD as you are just as unlikely as him to have the 7.

I'd be almost tempted to think he has JJ here and the river housed him up..I take it you folded to his river bet? You haven't defined his hand at all during the betting and that's a bit of a problem for me to determine whether it would be wise to call his river bet as your betting screams flush draw...so he could think his QQ or KK might also be good here.
very tricky on the river.
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« Reply #64 on: December 25, 2006, 11:56:02 PM »

reasons for folding is that byron often has JJ crushed when he re-raises OOP and then bets this flop.
Well the truth was I had been playing a little too aggressive, so I was aware I didnt have a great table image. So I was kindov expecting players to play against me with much worse holdings than AA. But I hadn't really played with Byrockincaid before, and he was playing on a 6 pack, so I thought there was a chance he maybe just got the needle with me. So thats why I called the flop....just in case you were interested.
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« Reply #65 on: December 27, 2006, 04:00:21 AM »

Instant call
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« Reply #66 on: December 27, 2006, 04:06:58 AM »

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« Reply #67 on: December 27, 2006, 03:41:06 PM »

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