Settle a debate please

[thetank]

Yes, but I would have thought it was easier for a pro to get a strike than a 180.

Either a turkey to a 180, or a strike to a treble 20.

[thetank]

A lot would depend upon the phrasing of the question.

"Which is the most difficult to achieve"

It doesn't say anything about being a pro

Are we taking four random and similar men from the street, unschooled and unfamilar with the discipline they are to be competing in.

Assign them each one of the four feats, and put them in a room (big room for the golf) till they achieve it.

In this case, I think the darts player would achieve his goal before the snooker player. The 147 is most difficult.

[bobby1]

A lot would depend upon the phrasing of the question.

"Which is the most difficult to achieve"

It doesn't say anything about being a pro

Are we taking four random and similar men from the street, unschooled and unfamilar with the discipline they are to be competing in.

Assign them each one of the four feats, and put them in a room (big room for the golf) till they achieve it.

In this case, I think the darts player would achieve his goal before the snooker player. The 147 is most difficult.

why would that be part of the question?

[TightEnd]

different answer for a pro though? I assume that might be hole in one cos of the luck element involved?

[Newportlad]

For a Pro, I think the hole in one is the toughest, as it relies a lot more on luck.
For the average bloke off the street, it has to be the 147, as there are a lot more shots involved and you have to keep your position etc.

[bobby1]

a pro golf tourney( depending on lay out of the course) is about evens to have a hole in one.

By the way if you want a good light gambling read the book about the hole in one gang is a great read.

[kinboshi]

My Dad has been ten-pin bowling for over 50 years now.  He's in his late 70s now, and still bowls a 190-average.  However, he's never managed a 300 game.  A young lad who bowls in the same team as him isn't as consistent, but has already bowled a 300.  So it's not impossible for a decent amateur with his eye in and luck going his way.

I know snooker players (amateurs) who have compeleted 147s in practice (none in competitions though).

I have a big, fat friend who's hit a hole in one.

I don't know any amateur darts players that have managed the 9-dart finish.

So I might go for that.

Good question though, and one I will steal and challenge my friends with... both of them.

[thetank]

For me then, I reckon the 147 would be toughest.

Ask Ray Barnevald the same question and you may get the same answer.

[bobby1]

you can currently bet around 7/4 that the world snooker championship has a 147 break in it,that is one tourney where the odds are 7/4. Max breaks are not that rare in snooker at the highest level.

[booder]

many amatuer dart players regularly achieve nine darters in practice....i have and i am pretty sure mfi will have done as well. from my late teens to my thirties i played in a wednesday league,a thursday league and a friday league.when you are practicing (sometimes for 3 or 4 hours,) you get into a rhythm and hitting 180's becomes quite a common occurence.the same can be said for snooker players,willie thorne allegedly had over 50 147's in practice but could not transfer that to the glare of the tv cameras.

[TightEnd]

willie thorne allegedly had over 50 147's in practice but could not transfer that to the glare of the tv cameras.

usually cos he had backed his opponent. Allegedly

[bobby1]

Here is a list of 147's over the last 20 odd years, this list only seems to cover the main rounds of events tho, so qualifying rounds where due to the big number of matches played would add many  more.

Date Player Opponent Event
January 11, 1982 Steve Davis John Spencer Lada Classic
April 23, 1983 Cliff Thorburn Terry Griffiths Embassy World Championship
January 28, 1984 Kirk Stevens Jimmy White Benson & Hedges Masters
November 17, 1987 Willie Thorne Tommy Murphy UK Championship
February 20, 1988 Tony Meo Stephen Hendry Rothmans Matchroom League
September 24, 1988 Alain Robidoux Jim Meadowcroft European Open
February 18, 1989 John Rea Ian Black Scottish Professional Championship
March 8, 1989 Cliff Thorburn Jimmy White Matchroom League
January 16, 1991 James Wattana Paul Dawkins Mita World Masters
June 1991 Peter Ebdon Wayne Martin Strachan Open
February 1992 James Wattana Tony Drago British Open
April 22, 1992 Jimmy White Tony Drago Embassy World Championship
May 9, 1992 John Parrott Tony Meo Matchroom League
May 24, 1992 Stephen Hendry Willie Thorne Matchroom League
November 1992 Peter Ebdon Ken Doherty UK Championship
September 1994 David McDonnell Nic Barrow British Open
April 27, 1995 Stephen Hendry Jimmy White Embassy World Championship
November 25, 1995 Stephen Hendry Gary Wilkinson UK Championship
January 5, 1997 Stephen Hendry Ronnie O'Sullivan Liverpool Victoria Charity Challenge
April 21, 1997 Ronnie O'Sullivan Mick Price Embassy World Championship
September 1997 James Wattana Pang Wei Guo Catch China International
May 16, 1998 Stephen Hendry Ken Doherty Doc. Marten's Premier League
August 10, 1998 Adrian Gunnell Mario Wehrmann Thailand Masters
August 13, 1998 Mehmet Husnu Eddie Barker China International
January 13, 1999 Jason Prince Ian Brumby British Open
January 29, 1999 Ronnie O'Sullivan James Wattana Regal Welsh Open
February 4, 1999 Stuart Bingham Barry Hawkins UK Tour Event
March 22, 1999 Nick Dyson Adrian Gunnell UK Tour Event
April 6, 1999 Graeme Dott David Roe British Open
September 19, 1999 Stephen Hendry Peter Ebdon British Open
September 21, 1999 Barry Pinches Joe Johnson Regal Welsh Open
October 13, 1999 Ronnie O'Sullivan Graeme Dott Grand Prix
November 4, 1999 Karl Burrows Adrian Rosa Benson & Hedges Championship
November 22, 1999 Stephen Hendry Paul Wykes UK Championship
January 21, 2000 John Higgins Dennis Taylor Nations Cup
March 24, 2000 John Higgins Jimmy White Irish Masters
March 24, 2000 Stephen Maguire Phaitoon Phonbun Regal Scottish Open
April 5, 2000 Ronnie O'Sullivan Quinten Hann Regal Scottish Open
October 25, 2000 Marco Fu Ken Doherty Regal Scottish Masters
November 7, 2000 David McLellan Steve Meakin Benson & Hedges Championship
November 19, 2000 Nick Dyson Robert Milkins UK Championship
February 25, 2001 Stephen Hendry Mark Williams Malta Grand Prix
October 17, 2001 Ronnie O'Sullivan Drew Henry LG Cup
November 12, 2001 Shaun Murphy Adrian Rosa Benson & Hedges Championship
October 28, 2002 Tony Drago Stuart Bingham Benson & Hedges Championship
April 22, 2003 Ronnie O'Sullivan Marco Fu Embassy World Championship
October 12, 2003 John Higgins Mark Williams LG Cup
November 12, 2003 John Higgins Michael Judge British Open
October 4, 2004 John Higgins Ricky Walden Grand Prix
November 17, 2004 David Gray Mark Selby UK Championship
April 20, 2005 Mark Williams Robert Milkins Embassy World Championship
November 22, 2005 Stuart Bingham Marcus Campbell The Masters qualifiers
March 14, 2006 Robert Milkins Mark Selby 888.com World Championship qualifiers
October 23, 2006 Jamie Cope Michael Holt Royal London Watches Grand Prix

regards

[booder]

usually cos he had backed his opponent. Allegedly

 

[TightEnd]

September 1994 David McDonnell Nic Barrow British Open

this one was the best, especially the long 13th red and the difficult green.

[RED-DOG]

I got a 147 at golf, does that count?