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Settle a debate please
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Which is the most difficult to achieve?...statistically or intuitively..out of the following:
a hole in one at golf
a 147 break at snooker
a 9 dart finish
a perfect 300 score at tenpin bowling
I discounted golf as one shot can be fluked
147s are quite frequent
so for me it was darts or bowling
I decided on the 9 darter as you have one shot at the double...
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147 is my guess
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Quote from: TightEnd on January 02, 2007, 03:32:42 PM
Which is the most difficult?...statistically or intuitively..out of the following:
a hole in one at golf
a 147 break at snooker
a 9 dart finish
a perfect 300 score at tenpin bowling
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January 02, 2007, 03:40:07 PM »
Not sure about the bowling but i'd say 9 dart finish at darts.
Holes in one are ten a penny and anybody can hit one, this makes it easiest.
147 at snooker although rare is reliable on luck (the way the balls split), also the player is supported by the table itself.
Darts is totally freehand, almost entirely skill (may get a lucky deflection) and extremely rare.
As i say i dunno about bowling, for all i know these may be achieved week in week out in every bowling alley in the country.
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Darts is only 9 perfect throws, bowling is 12 perfect bowls. Not many of either happening in main competitions, if I have to go for what's harder, I'd say the bowling but only because there's more tasks involved.
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Little story as an aside.
used to go for lunch in a snooker club in stirling where a lot of Pro's practised. I used to have a game sometimes (with a huge start). One day played Alain Robideux I broke, decent enough reds opened up but not all over the place and cue ball well back into baulk area. He states as I take a bite out of my toastie "eef i seenk thees red its a 147" (French Canadian spoke funny ye ken!!)
Anyway he proceeded to sink the red and nail a 147.
So must be pretty easy as he was rubbish, I even beat him once. ( okay i did get 120 of a start
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147 or maybe the darts
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Quote from: Sark79 on January 02, 2007, 04:04:03 PM
147 or maybe the darts
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January 02, 2007, 04:12:53 PM »
There is no right answer...
like IFM says probably the only one open to all in any sort of realism is the hole in one. However it is probably the one with the greatest number of attempts in any given day around the world and may at the same time have the smallest probability of actually happening. All great achievements in their own fields.
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Quote from: ifm on January 02, 2007, 04:11:36 PM
Quote from: Sark79 on January 02, 2007, 04:04:03 PM
147 or maybe the darts
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The gulf in skill needed to be transversed in order to complete a 147 or a 9-darter is a lot larger than that for a hole-in-one. A pro golfer is only three or four times more likely to hit a hole-in-one than an average golfer.
The 147 and the 9-darter are comparable. 147s are more common but I believe that is because snooker players are generally better at snooker than darts players are at darts (on account of the fact that top snooker players have been fully pro and practicing for six or seven hours a day for over twenty years, whereas most darts players have proper jobs and only practice in their spare time).
Once the full time darts teenagers come into the game, they'll destroy the old guard and 9-darteres will become more common. Hell, even back in the Jocky Wilson/Eric Bristow days, 180s were quite rare. Now they happen every five minutes in a match at the world championships.
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January 02, 2007, 06:27:07 PM »
it is deffo a nine dart finish, holes in one very frequent, 300 at ten pin bowling fairly frequent, 147 breaks pretty frequent....9 darter not many at all.
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Quote from: Silo Graham on January 02, 2007, 03:43:58 PM
Darts is only 9 perfect throws, bowling is 12 perfect bowls. Not many of either happening in main competitions, if I have to go for what's harder, I'd say the bowling but only because there's more tasks involved.
Yes, but I would have thought it was easier for a pro to get a strike than a 180.
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January 02, 2007, 06:35:27 PM »
Nine dart finish.
Take the kids to the local Bowelerama, and a they'll manage a few strikes.
Take them the next week and they may manage two or more strikes in a row.
Take the kids to the local Red Lion pub, and give them some arrows.
Take them the next week as well, they will not manage two treble twentys in a row.
Also bowling is dominated by fat Americans, Darts is dominated by fat Europeans. Stands to reason ours should be tougher, coz it just is chief!
I think the 147 is the strongest competition to the 9 darter. A compelling case could be made for it.
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