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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2007, 11:15:56 AM »

The right decision is that the hand is void and all chips returned to their previous owners.

You said it was an odd ruling.  Did they play rock-scissors-paper to decide who won the hand?
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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2007, 12:30:11 PM »

The right decision is that the hand is void and all chips returned to their previous owners.

This is the 'logical' rule but in practice it might be difficult to work out who put what into the pot, especially if others were involved in the hand for a while too, so they might not do this on 'practical' grounds.

If both players got their chips in believing that they held the nuts then I see no alternative other than to chop the pot between them.  However, on this board neither player could think that their hand was the nut hand as there's a possible straight flush out there, so perhaps this would justify them awarding the pot to the AK flush as the best non-nut hand.  It'd be a debatable ruling, but would have some logic to it in this case.

Anything other than one of the 3 alternatives above would be hard to justify, in my view.
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2007, 01:25:52 PM »

the young callow TD looked nervous. MB #2 in particular was agitated. Not helped by MB #1 being the self dealer and an air of suspicion was malevolently present.

the TD's ruling was that both    were dead and thus the  high flush won the lot to double MB #1 up over the  flush

In this respect therefore we can see that the emergence of the  two hearts on the river was crucial, with hindsight.

At this point MB#2 went bananas, pleading that he had put his chips in with the nuts and the ruling was a travesty. Suggestions that it was the "near nuts" not the nuts fell on deaf ears, drowned out in a cacophony of blue filled air.

MB #1, a devlishly good looking, urbane and literate chap offered to chop the pot, which had been played heads up, and split the blinds. He accepted that it was an unpleasant situation for the MB #2 to be in and whilst he accepted the logic of the ruling he thought that the "spirit" of the game demanded an equitable solution and furthermore would get a young inexperienced TD out of a hole.

The young TD grabbed the olive branch handed to him by MB #1 with both hands. MB #2 calmed down. Play resumed

A flock of young nubile women immediately began to railbird MB #1, attracted not only by his cogent and lucid reasoning but also by his sportsmanship. MB #1 accompanied several home at the conclusion of the comp, which he won in a canter.

Ok, I made the last paragraph up.
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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2007, 01:29:55 PM »

very gentlemanly of you tighty, and the decision that should have been made in the first place by the TD imo.
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2007, 01:33:10 PM »

a very nice offer from the MB #1, a devilishly good looking, urbane and literate chap. I take it tighty was MB#2?

it is the desicion the TD should have made IMO but well done on making the offer.
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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2007, 02:26:09 PM »

I say sack the TD.
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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2007, 02:32:03 PM »

was the deck counted afterwards etc?

was a card missing or was there an extra Ah ?
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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2007, 02:34:36 PM »

was the deck counted afterwards etc?

was a card missing or was there an extra Ah ?

I think it's safe to say there was an extra Ah afterall..there were two in the deck Wink
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« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2007, 02:35:32 PM »

I think whoever was dealing should be dragged outside and put in the stocks.
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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2007, 02:45:00 PM »

I think whoever was dealing should be dragged outside and put in the stocks.

the holes in the stocks weren't big enough
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« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2007, 02:47:17 PM »

I say sack the TD.

I say train the TD
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« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2007, 02:59:25 PM »


Sack him, clearly no poker sense at all.
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« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2007, 03:05:01 PM »

no no, new cardroom, inexperienced TD left in control when shouldn't be

He needs help to develop not throwing to the wolves.
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« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2007, 03:07:08 PM »

True..otherwise he would have known to frisk you before you came in Wink
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« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2007, 03:10:20 PM »

no no, new cardroom, inexperienced TD left in control when shouldn't be

He needs help to develop not throwing to the wolves.

How could he possibly be left in charge if he cant get this right.
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