Irish Poker Championships: Day 1 - Interactive

[NoflopsHomer]

Snoops and Jen wont mind, and if anyone else does......tough.

I guess when a player as tight as Red-Dog makes the third raise, you have to have him on AA/KK/QQ. Against more unpredictable opponents i think winning the pot now is fine. Against a (relatively) readable player like reddog (not an insult, just eveyone knows he plays solid poker), you can check raise him all-in on any flop without a K or Q and by then hes pot commited.

The more i think about it, when you get given the third raise treatment with aces, you should flat call.

Nice work ol
I feel clever

 

Exactly my point. Even a very loose (non-Ali Mallu) player will fold to a fourth bet preflop with anything except maybe Kings or the other two Aces. If he calls, and the flop is harmless, most people will go bust. I'm not saying Tom is not good enough to laydown queens here but I think this can maximise your winnings better than moving in early on in a tournament.

[snoopy1239]

Jsut popping to the loo. Jen's in the battlefield searching for dead bodies.

[snoopy1239]

Snoops and Jen wont mind, and if anyone else does......tough.

I guess when a player as tight as Red-Dog makes the third raise, you have to have him on AA/KK/QQ. Against more unpredictable opponents i think winning the pot now is fine. Against a (relatively) readable player like reddog (not an insult, just eveyone knows he plays solid poker), you can check raise him all-in on any flop without a K or Q and by then hes pot commited.

The more i think about it, when you get given the third raise treatment with aces, you should flat call.

Nice work ol
I feel clever

 

Exactly my point. Even a very loose (non-Ali Mallu) player will fold to a fourth bet preflop with anything except maybe Kings or the other two Aces. If he calls, and the flop is harmless, most people will go bust. I'm not saying Tom is not good enough to laydown queens here but I think this can maximise your winnings better than moving in early on in a tournament.

Yes, that's what I thought, thereby making his hand just as transparant as yours. The bet has to be big enough though to make sure marginal hands don't call for value.

[luckyblind]

Noel Hayes -- 16,800

This is Big City Banker, and he likes to fold KK preflop.

[luckyblind]

Jsut popping to the loo. Jen's in the battlefield searching for dead bodies.

Jen's Battlefield consists of multiple packets of Bacon Fries which she is devouring intently. BTW these updates are much more professional than ours

[NoflopsHomer]

Jsut popping to the loo. Jen's in the battlefield searching for dead bodies.

Jen's Battlefield consists of multiple packets of Bacon Fries which she is devouring intently. BTW these updates are much more professional than ours

Admit it, you miss me and my apple pips.

[ollyk1]

You're worried about him flatcalling with his Aces or Kings and playing them flawlessly, but I would have thought he'd get the chips anyhow on the Flop with a check-raise if Red just called.

Forget about the BB's holding for a second.

The action went raise by REd-Dog, rerasie by BB and then rereraise by REd-Dog after which the BB let's REd-dog of the hook by shoving all-in.

What I'm saying is REd-dog should have smooth called the BB's reraise and assesed on the flop.

Say it comes low and raggy and the BB bets out. Then Red can either call or fold (the hand has still cost him less then it actually did). If the guy fires another bullet on the turn then Red should have a good idea by this where he stands and it hasn't cost him any more chips.

Plus he got to see 4 cards and a chance to  hit a queen plus in the event his opponent has an underpair to the QQ, REd-Dog is sometimes getting money in good against an opponent in very bad shape. By rereraising this is not the case and the opponent gets off hands we beat for the minmum cost. Not good long term poker imho. 

[snoopy1239]

David 'doubleup' McGreachie is OUT.

He didn't look best pleased so I decided not to pursue.

[NoflopsHomer]

You're worried about him flatcalling with his Aces or Kings and playing them flawlessly, but I would have thought he'd get the chips anyhow on the Flop with a check-raise if Red just called.

Forget about the BB's holding for a second.

The action went raise by REd-Dog, rerasie by BB and then rereraise by REd-Dog after which the BB let's REd-dog of the hook by shoving all-in.

What I'm saying is REd-dog should have smooth called the BB's reraise and assesed on the flop.

Say it comes low and raggy and the BB bets out. Then Red can either call or fold (the hand has still cost him less then it actually did). If the guy fires another bullet on the turn then Red should have a good idea by this where he stands and it hasn't cost him any more chips.

Plus he got to see 4 cards and a chance to  hit a queen plus in the event his opponent has an underpair to the QQ, REd-Dog is sometimes getting money in good against an opponent in very bad shape. By rereraising this is not the case and the opponent gets off hands we beat for the minmum cost. Not good long term poker imho. 

Against a solid player I'd agree, but against a loose player who has played a lot of hands, he may have re-raised with ATC, therefore we just don't know what sort of flop we want if it doesn't contain a Q.

[Djinn]

Apple pips probably less damaging healthwise than six packets of bacon fries (I can't deny it, Mike was right about something)...

Elsewhere - Tikay has managed to turn his 22k a few levels ago into a danger-zone 7,800, as the blinds have risen to 300/600 ante 75.  Just saw him moving in on the cutoff, and although Stephen MacLean (stack - 21k) gave him a good staredown from the small blind, he got that one through.  It was all too much for me to stay and watch that though, so I wandered around as Snoopy said, vulture-like.

I found Joe Grech doing what looked like some shortish stack grinding (I don't know for sure but I think he's been under 20k pretty much all the time), just now raising with and showing to the passers...

Also:  Paul Higgins   18,250
Thomas Dunwoody  28,000   because they were in roughly the same quadrant and I have sore feet.

[snoopy1239]

You're worried about him flatcalling with his Aces or Kings and playing them flawlessly, but I would have thought he'd get the chips anyhow on the Flop with a check-raise if Red just called.

Forget about the BB's holding for a second.

The action went raise by REd-Dog, rerasie by BB and then rereraise by REd-Dog after which the BB let's REd-dog of the hook by shoving all-in.

What I'm saying is REd-dog should have smooth called the BB's reraise and assesed on the flop.

Say it comes low and raggy and the BB bets out. Then Red can either call or fold (the hand has still cost him less then it actually did). If the guy fires another bullet on the turn then Red should have a good idea by this where he stands and it hasn't cost him any more chips.

Plus he got to see 4 cards and a chance to  hit a queen plus in the event his opponent has an underpair to the QQ, REd-Dog is sometimes getting money in good against an opponent in very bad shape. By rereraising this is not the case and the opponent gets off hands we beat for the minmum cost. Not good long term poker imho. 

I agree that he should have called with his Aces, but I'm still unconvinced that RED should smooth call with his Queens because (1) He gives a weaker hand the chance to outdraw him (2) Play could freeze if an overcard hits the flop and (3) He gives Mateyboy an opportunity to bluff him off the hand.

I'm happy to take it down pre-flop if I have him beat and escape if I don't. Seeing the flop could be an expensive way of finding out the information you need, and even then it won't be as reliable as the information gathered from a pre-flop re-re-raise.

Interesting 1. I'm not 100% either way.

[NoflopsHomer]

Apple pips probably less damaging healthwise than six packets of bacon fries (I can't deny it, Mike was right about something)...

I think when the roof of your mouth starts bleeding you'll know you've had enough.

Wish tikay and Nick Slade all the best from me.

[action man]

Caught sight of Irishman, Dave Masters, walking down the aisle, putting his coat on in the process. However, actions can be deceptive as he's still in with 11.5k.

he's probably going outside for a smoke

[snoopy1239]

What we need is more local pictures for local people.



Watch this space...

[snoopy1239]

And here they are...

First off, Colette Murphy with 36,250