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byronkincaid
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Re: P4C
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Reply #45 on:
January 15, 2007, 07:28:32 PM »
Quote from: The Baron on January 15, 2007, 07:02:36 PM
Quote from: tikay on January 15, 2007, 11:13:14 AM
It is my clear understanding that Poker 4 Charity is NOT a Registered Charity, & by definition, not a Charity at all. It's simply a Trading Name.
Game4Life IS a Registered Charity. Game4Life Enterprises Limited is a Limited Company. Money collected by P4C is "unregulated", they can do whatever they wish with it, quite legally. I assume they choose to divide it all between the Charity & the Limited Company. I have no idea how they divide up the money collected by P4C between the Charity & the Limited Company. But as you can see, it makes working out the "what % is given to Charity" well-nigh impossible to keep track of.
I have never posted in this thread or any P4C/G4L thread until now but this paragraph and the line above it amazes me.
Why would a registered charity need to set up an "unregulated" traing name with which to collect money? Why not just do it through the registered charity? If I'm being thick here I apologise.
this was answered in the other thread, somewhere near the end I think. IIRC it was if they ever wanted to open a charity shop or an online poker room it would need to be done through their trading arm.
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Re: P4C
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January 15, 2007, 07:31:20 PM »
Quote from: tikay on January 15, 2007, 07:22:25 PM
Quote from: The Baron on January 15, 2007, 07:02:36 PM
Quote from: tikay on January 15, 2007, 11:13:14 AM
It is my clear understanding that Poker 4 Charity is NOT a Registered Charity, & by definition, not a Charity at all. It's simply a Trading Name.
Game4Life IS a Registered Charity. Game4Life Enterprises Limited is a Limited Company. Money collected by P4C is "unregulated", they can do whatever they wish with it, quite legally. I assume they choose to divide it all between the Charity & the Limited Company. I have no idea how they divide up the money collected by P4C between the Charity & the Limited Company. But as you can see, it makes working out the "what % is given to Charity" well-nigh impossible to keep track of.
I have never posted in this thread or any P4C/G4L thread until now but this paragraph and the line above it amazes me.
Why would a registered charity need to set up an "unregulated" traing name with which to collect money? Why not just do it through the registered charity? If I'm being thick here I apologise.
I assume your questions are rhetorical, but in any event, it would be wrong for me to attempt to answer them, that is for P4C/G4L.
Yes, they weren't questions aimed at anyone in particular. I'm just at a loss as to the thinking behind the seperate branches of the one "organisation". I see Byron has now answered my question, thanks Byron. I assume from this answer that having a seperate trading name is a normal thing for all charities with a charity shop then?
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son you have. I really wish him all the best for a happy healthy future.
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January 15, 2007, 07:34:10 PM »
Quote from: byronkincaid on January 15, 2007, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: The Baron on January 15, 2007, 07:02:36 PM
Quote from: tikay on January 15, 2007, 11:13:14 AM
It is my clear understanding that Poker 4 Charity is NOT a Registered Charity, & by definition, not a Charity at all. It's simply a Trading Name.
Game4Life IS a Registered Charity. Game4Life Enterprises Limited is a Limited Company. Money collected by P4C is "unregulated", they can do whatever they wish with it, quite legally. I assume they choose to divide it all between the Charity & the Limited Company. I have no idea how they divide up the money collected by P4C between the Charity & the Limited Company. But as you can see, it makes working out the "what % is given to Charity" well-nigh impossible to keep track of.
I have never posted in this thread or any P4C/G4L thread until now but this paragraph and the line above it amazes me.
Why would a registered charity need to set up an "unregulated" traing name with which to collect money? Why not just do it through the registered charity? If I'm being thick here I apologise.
this was answered in the other thread, somewhere near the end I think. IIRC it was if they ever wanted to open a charity shop or an online poker room it would need to be done through their trading arm.
Yes, they stated they were advised to do this by their Legal Advisers. But that in itself begs a whole lot of questions as to how the advice was implemented. I don't know anyone who realised that P4C was NOT a Charity.
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January 15, 2007, 07:42:06 PM »
I am Reece's Grandma, not his mum, this is his mommy, and what a brave daughter i have too.
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January 15, 2007, 07:47:25 PM »
Indeed she is. You must be proud.
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Re: P4C
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Re: P4C
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January 15, 2007, 07:55:38 PM »
Reece is a beautiful boy, I wish him all the best, and your whole family Nun.
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Yes, they weren't questions aimed at anyone in particular. I'm just at a loss as to the thinking behind the seperate branches of the one "organisation". I see Byron has now answered my question, thanks Byron. I assume from this answer that having a seperate trading name is a normal thing for all charities with a charity shop then?
I don't think so...
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Re: P4C
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January 15, 2007, 08:22:59 PM »
I was under the impression Game4life Enterprises Ltd was the trading arm of the company.
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January 15, 2007, 09:07:24 PM »
Nun my thoughts are with you and all your familt best wishes.
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January 16, 2007, 12:07:58 AM »
Tx all.
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January 16, 2007, 03:19:01 AM »
I am lost for words for once Maureen...Its been lovely seeing his baby pics and now hes a wee toddler....awwwwwww
I wish him good health in the future and my deepest heartfelt wishes go to you and Stacey..keep strong and you know everyone is praying for Reece.
Hes a fighter
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Re: P4C
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January 16, 2007, 08:55:58 AM »
I have been asked to post this: (Don't shoot the kin messenger please!)
Poker4Charity - This was merely a name we came up with when we held our first event in Newcastle over 5 years ago, we never thought at that stage we would register it as a charity. After talking to a few poker pro's they suggested we should try and get charitable status.
When it came to registering a name for the charity, the charities commission would not accept the name Poker4Charity as it did not represent what our mission statement was about. Plus poker was not allowed in the name as it was gaming.
So we came up with the name Game For Life - This was done because all of the children we had met were indeed Game For Life.
The name Poker4Charity still exists as many people knew it as that and we already had a paid forum in the P4C name.
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Re: P4C
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January 16, 2007, 11:15:11 AM »
Quote from: Trace on January 16, 2007, 08:55:58 AM
I have been asked to post this: (Don't shoot the kin messenger please!)
thanks Trace, but really they should post themselves shouldn't they? It doesn't look too good does it, hiding behind you (even though you represent them like a good 'un!)
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Re: P4C
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January 16, 2007, 11:20:05 AM »
Quote from: TightEnd on January 16, 2007, 11:15:11 AM
Quote from: Trace on January 16, 2007, 08:55:58 AM
I have been asked to post this: (Don't shoot the kin messenger please!)
thanks Trace, but really they should post themselves shouldn't they? It doesn't look too good does it, hiding behind you (even though you represent them like a good 'un!)
I actually asked Trace to post this, as I didn't know when I would be getting online, and I am in no way hiding behind anyone,and have never felt the need to hide behind anyone. I thought you would rather have the answer sooner rather than later.
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January 16, 2007, 11:23:21 AM »
yep, thanks
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