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The Baron
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January 18, 2007, 06:57:41 PM »
The EPL has just sold rights to be shown abroad for a wopping £625m per season.
Now the premiership winners will be getting £50m and the bottom placed club will be getting £30m!
I think this is bad for several reasons.
1) Increased player wages and tranfer fees etc will mean a wage cap will never come into place as the foreign markets who buy the right will always want the EPL to have the best players.
2) The gap between the top and bottom clubs is only going to get wider. No longer will unfashionable clubs be able to win the league by a combination of good management and buying youth players who grow into winners.
3) The G14 and/or Uefa will undoubtedly try to put some kind of restriction on imports to England.
4) Clubs who get relegated with a £30m budget will be coming straight back up. It is highly likely Championship clubs will no longer rotate between who comes up and who doesn't.
5) Winning the league now pays more than winning in Europe!
Is it time for the wage cap to promote some uncertainty of outcome in our league?
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Re: More money for Premier League clubs
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January 18, 2007, 07:56:40 PM »
Quote from: The Baron on January 18, 2007, 06:57:41 PM
2) The gap between the top and bottom clubs is only going to get wider. No longer will unfashionable clubs be able to win the league by a combination of good management and buying youth players who grow into winners.
Just curious, when did this last happen?
The last place getting 30m, and the champ getting 50m. That seems like a rather flat payout structure if anything.
I understand a gripe that it makes the gap between the Premiership and the lower divisons, but isn't that why it's called the Premiership?
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January 18, 2007, 08:06:26 PM »
yeah, this is terrible all the clubs in the league getting money. I don't think it is fair. I think clubs should rely on foreign investors from Russia and sheiks from Dubai or wherever
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January 18, 2007, 08:38:56 PM »
I guess the money is going to the clubs anyway.
The question is who does it go to in the end.
Either it goes to the owners or the players. so thats either to the Glazers, Ambramovich, Lerner or Gerrard, Scholes, Giggs etc
The only other option is for the money to be captured by the "authorities" and handed down to lower leagues. But the Premiershiip was created for exactly this reason they own their own rights and the FA cannot step in and redistribute to the football league.
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January 18, 2007, 09:29:07 PM »
Quote from: thetank on January 18, 2007, 07:56:40 PM
Quote from: The Baron on January 18, 2007, 06:57:41 PM
2) The gap between the top and bottom clubs is only going to get wider. No longer will unfashionable clubs be able to win the league by a combination of good management and buying youth players who grow into winners.
Just curious, when did this last happen?
The last place getting 30m, and the champ getting 50m. That seems like a rather flat payout structure if anything.
I understand a gripe that it makes the gap between the Premiership and the lower divisons, but isn't that why it's called the Premiership?
Chelsea were the last of the so called "smaller clubs" to come up and play with the big boys for obvious reasons. The season before their buyout they were going bankrupt had they lost on the last day Vs Liverpool. (They did win in fairness)
Cloughie did ok with the unfashionable Derby and even more with Forest. In the 80s Villa and Everton were pretty useful too.
I understand no club has broken the oligopoly at the top in many years (other than Chelsea) but with Lerner, Magnusson, Abramovic, DIC and the Glazers it was going to be a lot more interesting.
Now a £100m takeover doesn't really mean much when EVERY club is going to get at least £30m a season!
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January 18, 2007, 09:34:04 PM »
Quote from: thetank on January 18, 2007, 07:56:40 PM
The last place getting 30m, and the champ getting 50m. That seems like a rather flat payout structure if anything.
Essentially yes it is a flat payout structure but bridging the gap from a lower division now will be nearly impossible.
Look at Watford. Worked their bollocks off to get PL football. Now they'll go down without anything like £30 million unlike next season's bottom placed team. In the future they'll be competing for the Championship Vs clubs who have had that £30m earner.
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Quote from: dan on January 18, 2007, 08:06:26 PM
yeah, this is terrible all the clubs in the league getting money. I don't think it is fair. I think clubs should rely on foreign investors from Russia and sheiks from Dubai or wherever
To DIC and Abramovich this will make no difference.
I have no problem with the clubs getting money, it's more the amount of money in comparison to the rest of football.
Imagine you are a Hammers fan and you've just had a £100m takeover happen. How is that going to help when in 2 seasons every club will have earned over half of that just for turning up!
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January 18, 2007, 09:51:12 PM »
European super league please.
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January 18, 2007, 09:54:51 PM »
Quote from: The Baron on January 18, 2007, 09:37:32 PM
Quote from: dan on January 18, 2007, 08:06:26 PM
yeah, this is terrible all the clubs in the league getting money. I don't think it is fair. I think clubs should rely on foreign investors from Russia and sheiks from Dubai or wherever
To DIC and Abramovich this will make no difference.
I have no problem with the clubs getting money, it's more the amount of money in comparison to the rest of football.
Imagine you are a Hammers fan and you've just had a £100m takeover happen. How is that going to help when in 2 seasons every club will have earned over half of that just for turning up!
Imagine you are an unfasionable club and no rich guy from russia, iceland, dubia wants to pump money into your club.
why should west ham fans feel hard done by?
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January 18, 2007, 09:58:25 PM »
Here's one for you Baron...
Is someone is now more liekly to come along and invest 25m in a club like Plymouth.
It looks a lot more financially viable now, if they can make it to the Prem league and get their cool 30m showing up money.
I see this as potentially bridging the gap, rather than extending it.
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January 18, 2007, 10:02:34 PM »
There are too many clubs, why bridge the gap, if they can't cut the mustard then they can close.
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January 18, 2007, 10:07:41 PM »
Quote from: dan on January 18, 2007, 09:54:51 PM
Quote from: The Baron on January 18, 2007, 09:37:32 PM
Quote from: dan on January 18, 2007, 08:06:26 PM
yeah, this is terrible all the clubs in the league getting money. I don't think it is fair. I think clubs should rely on foreign investors from Russia and sheiks from Dubai or wherever
To DIC and Abramovich this will make no difference.
I have no problem with the clubs getting money, it's more the amount of money in comparison to the rest of football.
Imagine you are a Hammers fan and you've just had a £100m takeover happen. How is that going to help when in 2 seasons every club will have earned over half of that just for turning up!
Imagine you are an unfasionable club and no rich guy from russia, iceland, dubia wants to pump money into your club.
why should west ham fans feel hard done by?
True but how is giving the top flight clubs more money going to bridge the gap you speak of?
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January 18, 2007, 10:15:08 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on January 18, 2007, 10:02:34 PM
There are too many clubs, why bridge the gap, if they can't cut the mustard then they can close.
Actually, financially this does make sense. Every nation (bar Italy) has 2 leagues when we have 4. Our distribution of fans is hyouge meaning smaller fans bases for our bigger clubs and therefore less money.
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January 18, 2007, 10:16:54 PM »
Quote from: thetank on January 18, 2007, 09:58:25 PM
Here's one for you Baron...
Is someone is now more liekly to come along and invest 25m in a club like Plymouth.
It looks a lot more financially viable now, if they can make it to the Prem league and get their cool 30m showing up money.
I see this as potentially bridging the gap, rather than extending it.
It's the best idea out there. Bates, Mandaric, Risdale - they're all doing exactly that. The value is in the championship clubs.
The problem is after next year these clubs are going to be competing against a club that has just come down from the PL but now got £30m to spend! It's not very easy to get promoted over that.
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January 18, 2007, 10:25:45 PM »
Baron its a flat structure at the moment with the top getting £30 mill and the bottom getting £20mill (please correct me if i am wrong) so i dont think this will make a big difference. Just a bit more extra money in eryones pocket.
I think the worrying thing is that attendances are in the most majority down and something needs to be looked into this- maybe by subsidising matches.
Last nite, although they were only replays, i noticed that Tottenham and Newcastle had only 27,000 each. That really shocked me for these two clubs. I think if Arsenal too had an early round replay we would be nowhere near capacity.(Actually maybe not as our first 7 FA Cup and CL matches are included in our season ticket)
Nem - was your match last nite a Category A match? Surely it could have been subsidised a bit?
Rooky same with Newcastle - why such a low crowd?
The Premier League wont be this good forever and these clubs need to be a little careful with all the money they are getting now? I mean Chelsea's wage bill, what a joke! John Terry £120-150k a year!!
and West Ham supposedly paying Lucas Neill if he signs £60,000.
The world has gone mad!!
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