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« Reply #105 on: January 20, 2007, 08:58:34 PM » |
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If Jade Goody is in trouble for her comments and behaviour at least she can head for the nearest synagogue to take refuge.
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« Reply #106 on: January 20, 2007, 09:00:16 PM » |
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If Jade Goody is in trouble for her comments and behaviour at least she can head for the nearest synagogue to take refuge.
why ? Because not even the authorities are allowed inside. |
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When I grow up, I'm gonna turn the tables.
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« Reply #107 on: January 20, 2007, 09:00:48 PM » |
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« Reply #108 on: January 20, 2007, 09:01:14 PM » |
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OK James - you say both.
Do you mean both make it racist, or either of them?
Either. |
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« Reply #109 on: January 20, 2007, 09:02:44 PM » |
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OK then James, so "white trash" IS racist then - no matter where the saying comes from, or that the person "meant" it as a "class" comment?
If a white person is offended by the comment?
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« Reply #110 on: January 20, 2007, 09:06:19 PM » |
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I have to say I always think it's rather funny when white (middle aged?) fairly well off men complain about not being able to use term such as Paki Bastard...and how a term like white Trash is racist aswell.
If you can't see the difference between the two there really is something seriously wrong with you.
Great way to debate something, the "I am right so there" attitude. Put foward your reasons why using "white" when insulting someone is any more/less racist than using "black" ? see, this is the problem I have when arguing this point especially with white men. Over the past few 100 years "whites" have been (and some, if not most would argue still are) the dominating race on the planet and they/we have not always been (let's say) gracefull about that.. Using the term white in this context does not have the same negative undertone which most terms (like Paki, and Blackie etc) tend to have. When is the last time you heard the word White used as a racial insult? Is the term "White trash" REALLY the same as calling someone a "Black/Paki Bastard"?? I think you'll agree that they are slightly different. |
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« Reply #111 on: January 20, 2007, 09:08:42 PM » |
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white trash is not racist per se. Please have a look at the etymology of the term and then come back to the forum. The 'white trash' as Flushy said before was originally 'trailer trash' and was refering to poor working class families (american term). It refers more to the poverty and the conditions those people live in rathen then their ethnic qualitites. Racism- racism
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1. the belief that each race or ethnic group possesses specific characteristics, abilities, or qualities that distinguish it as inferior or superior to another such group.
2. discrimination against or antagonism towards other races or ethnic groups based on such a belief.
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« Reply #112 on: January 20, 2007, 09:09:41 PM » |
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Boldie, yes I see the difference.
The difference is that white people see an attack on their race as less offensive as other cultures would.
Why should it be like that?
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« Reply #113 on: January 20, 2007, 09:11:45 PM » |
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white trash is not racist per se. Please have a look at the etymology of the term and then come back to the forum. The 'white trash' as Flushy said before was originally 'trailer trash' and was refering to poor working class families (american term). It refers more to the poverty and the conditions those people live in rathen then their ethnic qualitites. Racism- racism
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1. the belief that each race or ethnic group possesses specific characteristics, abilities, or qualities that distinguish it as inferior or superior to another such group.
2. discrimination against or antagonism towards other races or ethnic groups based on such a belief.
The difference is quite clear; And as James has also said, if the person whom the comment is aimed at finds it insulting in a racist way, then it is racist, no matter if the person meant it as a racist comment or not. This was my point I was trying to make. |
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« Reply #114 on: January 20, 2007, 09:12:29 PM » |
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Boldie, yes I see the difference.
The difference is that white people see an attack on their race as less offensive as other cultures would.
Why should it be like that?
when is the last time the white race was attacked? I have never had someone insult me racially because I'm white. when was the last time you were`racially abused for being white? |
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« Reply #115 on: January 20, 2007, 09:13:20 PM » |
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KINGPOKER- your post is disgraceful...
BTW the name of the actress is SHILPA,
and racial abuse is outlawed in this country, and this is a reality.
M3boy, not really. you have to be able to differentiate between racial abuse and plain insult.
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« Reply #117 on: January 20, 2007, 09:14:07 PM » |
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if you truely believe the term white trash to be a slur against your race Paul then i will endeavour to make sure i never use it in your presence.
Much like i hope the bastard you earlier referred to will not be called a Paki bastard if he felt the same way.
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« Reply #118 on: January 20, 2007, 09:14:28 PM » |
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The English are not a race Paul they are a nationality.
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« Reply #119 on: January 20, 2007, 09:20:11 PM » |
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if you truely believe the term white trash to be a slur against your race Paul then i will endeavour to make sure i never use it in your presence.
Much like i hope the bastard you earlier referred to will not be called a Paki bastard if he felt the same way.
James, i have not said I would find it racist, I was just debating the subject. |
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