I'll deliberately tune in to watch....Jade?

[M3boy]

The English are not a race Paul they are a nationality.

Would Pakistan not be a nationality and not a race then?

[KingPoker]

how is my post disgraceful. You would not be making a fuss if i spelt michael like mikel so don't go picking at it trying to make out 'oh shes Pakistani or Indian so i will just say it how i want. I honestly have not watched a second of big bro or read about it so i could not be sure!

I retract my statement about it being ok to call someone a paki- the point i was trying to get over was i just hate the fact that if SHILPA was overweight and jade went round all day calling her a fat bitch/cow/whale mess no one would give a shit. But because she ever so slightly referred to the colour of her skin then OMG its the biggest thing since the war!

i just HATE the hypocrisy of people not giving a shit about someone being abused about their weight but perk up like little do-gooders when colour is brought into it. Thats no better than being a racist because all your doing is being a sort of filter. Allowing some hurtful comments but not others. Ridiculous hypocrites.

[M3boy]

i just HATE the hypocrisy of people not giving a shit about someone being abused about their weight but perk up like little do-gooders when colour is brought into it. Thats no better than being a racist because all your doing is being a sort of filter. Allowing some hurtful comments but not others. Ridiculous hypocrites.

good post

[Suited_Jock]

how is my post disgraceful. You would not be making a fuss if i spelt michael like mikel so don't go picking at it trying to make out 'oh shes Pakistani or Indian so i will just say it how i want. I honestly have not watched a second of big bro or read about it so i could not be sure!

I retract my statement about it being ok to call someone a paki- the point i was trying to get over was i just hate the fact that if SHILPA was overweight and jade went round all day calling her a fat bitch/cow/whale mess no one would give a shit. But because she ever so slightly referred to the colour of her skin then OMG its the biggest thing since the war!

i just HATE the hypocrisy of people not giving a shit about someone being abused about their weight but perk up like little do-gooders when colour is brought into it. Thats no better than being a racist because all your doing is being a sort of filter. Allowing some hurtful comments but not others. Ridiculous hypocrites.

You can't just retract saying its ok to call someone a paki bastard it's already shown everyone your true colours.

Fat people can change being fat they can lose weight its probably down to laziness, poor diet, lack of exercise etc etc.. if they don't like it they can diet.

What a ridiculous comparison.

[Royal Flush]

How many wars have been fought over the average weight of a nation......how many have been fought over a nation's ethnicity or race?

If you can't see the difference then i will change my opinion of you to just ignorant.

[Triple X]

If Jade Goody is in trouble for her comments and behaviour at least she can head for the nearest synagogue to take refuge.

why ?

Because not even the authorities are allowed inside.

wtf is this meant to mean?

what an ill-though of comment

[Sheriff Fatman]

Guys, just to request that the debate remains civil.  I'm trying to avoid deletions and some of the comments have sailed close to the wind at times.

I can see the sensitivities around KingPoker's original post but its been debated too much to make deletion an option at this stage.  I don't agree with much of the sentiment expressed in it but its become a part of the debate now, and for that reason it's staying up.

Please don't give the Mods any reason to start making deletions.  This subject matter is tough enough to moderate as it is!

Sheriff

[KingPoker]

how is my post disgraceful. You would not be making a fuss if i spelt michael like mikel so don't go picking at it trying to make out 'oh shes Pakistani or Indian so i will just say it how i want. I honestly have not watched a second of big bro or read about it so i could not be sure!

I retract my statement about it being ok to call someone a paki- the point i was trying to get over was i just hate the fact that if SHILPA was overweight and jade went round all day calling her a fat bitch/cow/whale mess no one would give a shit. But because she ever so slightly referred to the colour of her skin then OMG its the biggest thing since the war!

i just HATE the hypocrisy of people not giving a shit about someone being abused about their weight but perk up like little do-gooders when colour is brought into it. Thats no better than being a racist because all your doing is being a sort of filter. Allowing some hurtful comments but not others. Ridiculous hypocrites.

You can't just retract saying its ok to call someone a paki bastard it's already shown everyone your true colours.

Fat people can change being fat they can lose weight its probably down to laziness, poor diet, lack of exercise etc etc.. if they don't like it they can diet.

What a ridiculous comparison.

I think you have just shown your true colours. As a qualified sports nutrionist i know a little about obesity and it doesnt purely come down to the small minded opinion of lack of exercise and diet. There are lots of genetic factors that i wont go into that affect metabolism, physiological factors affecting hunger and psychological reasons. You are idiotic in your comment as you believe it someones FAULT that their FAT! You could offend as many saying that as saying something aboutg their colour.

So it may be time for you to retract the statement or learn the facts to back up what you say!

[M3boy]

This is getting heated, and rightly so.

Hopefully everyone will see my posts as "debating"

Beilieve me, racism is unnacceptable in my book as are any comments against someone that detrements them in some way (be it size, intelligence or whatever)

In my book it is just as hurtfull to insult someone because of their race/creed/colour as it is for any other personal reason (size, wealth, intelligence etc...)

[Royal Flush]

how is my post disgraceful. You would not be making a fuss if i spelt michael like mikel so don't go picking at it trying to make out 'oh shes Pakistani or Indian so i will just say it how i want. I honestly have not watched a second of big bro or read about it so i could not be sure!

I retract my statement about it being ok to call someone a paki- the point i was trying to get over was i just hate the fact that if SHILPA was overweight and jade went round all day calling her a fat bitch/cow/whale mess no one would give a shit. But because she ever so slightly referred to the colour of her skin then OMG its the biggest thing since the war!

i just HATE the hypocrisy of people not giving a shit about someone being abused about their weight but perk up like little do-gooders when colour is brought into it. Thats no better than being a racist because all your doing is being a sort of filter. Allowing some hurtful comments but not others. Ridiculous hypocrites.

You can't just retract saying its ok to call someone a paki bastard it's already shown everyone your true colours.

Fat people can change being fat they can lose weight its probably down to laziness, poor diet, lack of exercise etc etc.. if they don't like it they can diet.

What a ridiculous comparison.

I think you have just shown your true colours. As a qualified sports nutrionist i know a little about obesity and it doesnt purely come down to the small minded opinion of lack of exercise and diet. There are lots of genetic factors that i wont go into that affect metabolism, physiological factors affecting hunger and psychological reasons. You are idiotic in your comment as you believe it someones FAULT that their FAT! You could offend as many saying that as saying something aboutg their colour.

So it may be time for you to retract the statement or learn the facts to back up what you say!

What % of people are fat because of genetic inhibitions?

[hotdog]

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Flushy has answered to your question in  away.  White trash is not a racist term while 'paki bastard' is.  If you can't see a difference between the two, no point of talking. 
[/quote]

r u mad white is a race so is pakistani so is loads of others.so if i sed paki trash and white trash u saying that one is racist and the other not.u hav gt to be seriously having a laugh

[Sheriff Fatman]

Fat people can change being fat they can lose weight its probably down to laziness, poor diet, lack of exercise etc etc.. if they don't like it they can diet.

What a ridiculous comparison.

As one of the fat people of the world I find this attitude just as bad as anything along racist lines.  Discrimination of any sort over someone's personal attributes is still discrimination.

[KingPoker]

a very small number- less than 1.5 % but the other factors i mentioned are common place througout the obesity epidemic (and that is what it is commonly referred to).

[Suited_Jock]

how is my post disgraceful. You would not be making a fuss if i spelt michael like mikel so don't go picking at it trying to make out 'oh shes Pakistani or Indian so i will just say it how i want. I honestly have not watched a second of big bro or read about it so i could not be sure!

I retract my statement about it being ok to call someone a paki- the point i was trying to get over was i just hate the fact that if SHILPA was overweight and jade went round all day calling her a fat bitch/cow/whale mess no one would give a shit. But because she ever so slightly referred to the colour of her skin then OMG its the biggest thing since the war!

i just HATE the hypocrisy of people not giving a shit about someone being abused about their weight but perk up like little do-gooders when colour is brought into it. Thats no better than being a racist because all your doing is being a sort of filter. Allowing some hurtful comments but not others. Ridiculous hypocrites.

You can't just retract saying its ok to call someone a paki bastard it's already shown everyone your true colours.

Fat people can change being fat they can lose weight its probably down to laziness, poor diet, lack of exercise etc etc.. if they don't like it they can diet.

What a ridiculous comparison.

I think you have just shown your true colours. As a qualified sports nutrionist i know a little about obesity and it doesnt purely come down to the small minded opinion of lack of exercise and diet. There are lots of genetic factors that i wont go into that affect metabolism, physiological factors affecting hunger and psychological reasons. You are idiotic in your comment as you believe it someones FAULT that their FAT! You could offend as many saying that as saying something aboutg their colour.

So it may be time for you to retract the statement or learn the facts to back up what you say!

What % of people are fat because of genetic inhibitions?

What do you mean I have shown my true colours lol?? So if I change my statement to "THE MAJORITY" of fat people then its perfectly ok? Britains problem is to do with its cultural and upbringing. I mean wow only 2-3 yrs ago you couldnt get a salad in mcdonalds... times are changing now yes but we won't see a swing for 20-30 years.

[Royal Flush]

?

Flushy has answered to your question in  away.  White trash is not a racist term while 'paki bastard' is.  If you can't see a difference between the two, no point of talking. 
[/quote]

r u mad white is a race so is pakistani so is loads of others.so if i sed paki trash and white trash u saying that one is racist and the other not.u hav gt to be seriously having a laugh
[/quote]

Its not that white is not a race, its about the term "white trash" it is an American term that alludes to a person's social-economic background, not everyone who is white trash is white.