I'll deliberately tune in to watch....Jade?

[M3boy]

Fat people can change being fat they can lose weight its probably down to laziness, poor diet, lack of exercise etc etc.. if they don't like it they can diet.

What a ridiculous comparison.

As one of the fat people of the world I find this attitude just as bad as anything along racist lines.  Discrimination of any sort over someone's personal attributes is still discrimination.

EXACTLY my point!!!!

Well said that man!

[KingPoker]

AND IF PEOPLE ACTUALLY READ MY, NOW, DEBATED POST RIGHT TO THE END IT SHOWS IM NOT A RACIST. I HATE RACISM AND WOULD NEVER STAND FOR IT BEING CARRIED OUT FACE TO FACE, ONLINE OR ANY OTHER WAY!

THE POINT OF THE THREAD WAS TO SHOW THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN THE LEVEL OF PERSONAL ATTACK IN CALLING SOMEONE A 'PAKI' BASTARD TO A FAT BASTARD.

The one is no worse than the other and vice versa

[byronkincaid]

I think there are certain prescription drugs which make you put on weight. Also people can have psychological problems which cause them to eat too much.

Me I just eat too much junk food and don't do any exercise

[Royal Flush]

THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN THE LEVEL OF PERSONAL ATTACK IN CALLING SOMEONE A 'PAKI' BASTARD TO A FAT BASTARD.

 >:? >:?

[KingPoker]

SUITED JOCK- you are right in the fact of how society is contnually changing (and mainly for the best)

But if you genuinely do think in your head that people are fat coz they eat too many mars bars and crisps and they can lose weight by simply running for 6 months then you are a very ignorant person.

[M3boy]

THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN THE LEVEL OF PERSONAL ATTACK IN CALLING SOMEONE A 'PAKI' BASTARD TO A FAT BASTARD.

 >:? >:?

Why James??

[Suited_Jock]

SUITED JOCK- you are right in the fact of how society is contnually changing (and mainly for the best)

But if you genuinely do think in your head that people are fat coz they eat too many mars bars and crisps and they can lose weight by simply running for 6 months then you are a very ignorant person.

I would certainly like to see some hard facts on this matter but I do not think I am too far off on my mark. I also find it funny by making that statement i am thrown in the same boat as being a racist. Everyone is telling me how wrong I am yet is unable to provide any facts numbers %'s etc.

Calling someone a racial derogatory term is bang out of order slagging someone about their personal appearance is also not justified I am just trying to go to some lengths as to distinguish the different severites of the two.

[KingPoker]

Flushy i think you are the ignorant one sir.

Do you think it would be easier for a overweight school kid to go thru school being bullied everyday with all the nicknames that could be thought of than,
A pakistani school child being subjected to racist coments every day.

The two children could both have positively correlating psychological reactions to the bullying. One is no better than the other!

My point all the way along.

[Royal Flush]

For a start its generally considered being overweight is a negative thing, someone's race should not be considered a negative aspect of their being.

[M3boy]

For a start its generally considered being overweight is a negative thing, someone's race should not be considered a negative aspect of their being.

ffs James,,,, try saying this argument to parents who have seen their children destroyed at school (even lead to suicide).

Jesus!

[KingPoker]

But in our society flushy (uk) i would say racism is a factor in any part of britain you go. I also believe that the same applies to fattism. Both can be, by some idiots, to be negative.

[Sheriff Fatman]

SUITED JOCK- you are right in the fact of how society is contnually changing (and mainly for the best)

But if you genuinely do think in your head that people are fat coz they eat too many mars bars and crisps and they can lose weight by simply running for 6 months then you are a very ignorant person.

I would certainly like to see some hard facts on this matter but I do not think I am too far off on my mark. I also find it funny by making that statement i am thrown in the same boat as being a racist. Everyone is telling me how wrong I am yet is unable to provide any facts numbers %'s etc.

Calling someone a racial derogatory term is bang out of order slagging someone about their personal appearance is also not justified I am just trying to go to some lengths as to distinguish the different severites of the two.

So you need statistics to tell you that its not OK to discriminate against a certain category of people?  Interesting point of view.

[Royal Flush]

I am not saying we should stop people getting abused for being fat.

I am saying that Racism is a much more severe and dangerous thing to allow.

[Suited_Jock]

SUITED JOCK- you are right in the fact of how society is contnually changing (and mainly for the best)

But if you genuinely do think in your head that people are fat coz they eat too many mars bars and crisps and they can lose weight by simply running for 6 months then you are a very ignorant person.

I would certainly like to see some hard facts on this matter but I do not think I am too far off on my mark. I also find it funny by making that statement i am thrown in the same boat as being a racist. Everyone is telling me how wrong I am yet is unable to provide any facts numbers %'s etc.

Calling someone a racial derogatory term is bang out of order slagging someone about their personal appearance is also not justified I am just trying to go to some lengths as to distinguish the different severites of the two.

So you need statistics to tell you that its not OK to discriminate against a certain category of people?  Interesting point of view.

Did you even read my post? Looks like you just skimmed it and put 2+2 together to get 6.

I didnt come into this argument to take sides here... I just thought it was bang out of order that KingPoker can come out and say its ok to call someone a paki b****d.

I for one suffered years of bullying for being overweight at school but there are soo many idiots and sheep who will join in that whats the point in trying to fight back against it? The scarey thing is when you grow up the same people are about try ironing that out of society .. its not going away.

The difference about racism is that it is actually against the law to do and say things against another race.

[KingPoker]

I have to say in my high school (mid wales) we were a 100% white school. Until my last year when a young black 12 year old joined and i have to say he made mates staright off and i know because i dealt with it, being a prefect, that any rsacist remark to him would have led to the person who said it being hurt or reported straight to the headmaster. NOONE STOOD FOR IT even in the schoolyard.
But i can say for a fact that 100's of hurtful comments were directed at the oerweight kids and its very hard to prove but it was accepted (not by me but everyone would expect the kid to stand up for himself!

MY GOD CAN YOU IMAGINE IF WE HAD AN ASIAN OR BLACK OR PAKISTANI BLONDIE ON HERE BEING ABUSED.
THE RACIST WOULDNT KNOW WHAT HIT HIM!!!!!

BUT WHAT IF IT WAS A OVERWEIGHT PERSON. WOULD YOU GO JUST AS MAD OR SECRETLY LAUGH AND SMIRK (THATS WHY ITS WORSE TO ME!!!!!!!)