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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2007, 08:59:36 PM »

open to suggestions, something fast, maybe that busta rhymes knightrider remix.
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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2007, 08:59:59 PM »

lol,  what is going on in your head while playing 21 tables?   is it panic, stress and confusion  or is it calm and relaxed? .  I must be a bit dim  Cheesy , I get mixed up with two tables 

I wonder if older players such as Doyle Brunson and TJ Cloutier prefer playing one table rather than a lot. I have heard them say a few things about internet players in the past which led me to believe that they weren't into multi tabling.

Are there any internet pro's who only play a single table?
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2007, 09:04:00 PM »

Tikay that's not always true, if i am playing the early stages of a freezeout i am my own worst enemy, if i play 2 i do play better as i get less involved.

Noted, but you'll agree, at SOME point, the LODR kicks in.
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2007, 09:05:15 PM »

Tikay that's not always true, if i am playing the early stages of a freezeout i am my own worst enemy, if i play 2 i do play better as i get less involved.

Noted, but you'll agree, at SOME point, the LODR kicsk in.

Of course.
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2007, 09:05:29 PM »

I think if you're learning or trying to improve your game at a certain level (like, you're moving up to a higher buyin cashgame or learning to play limit omaha SNGs or whatever really) then it makes sense to play 1 or 2 tables so you can sit and observe and think deeper about things.

For multitabling optimal in $/hr terms for most players who are already crushing the game would be around 6-8 tables for cash and 9-12 for SNGs where the decisions are a lot easier.
Using macros to map keys to functions will help a lot. For SNGs I use a modded version of _dave_'s betpot script so that i can press F1 to fold, F2 to check/call and F3 to push, and the mousewheel to set bet amout.

I made a video of myself playing 21 SNGs withouttiming out last night just for a laugh, i think if I can get up to 30 without timing out I'll put it on youtube, should be good fun 

Dale makes my point perfectly!

How about 40 tables? 50? 60? How cool would that be, eh?
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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2007, 09:06:10 PM »

As tikay points out there is hardly a person alive that wouldn't play better if they only played one game at once, but i would disagree with the optimium level for making £/ per hour for everyone is 1/2 tables.

I play 4 cash games at once making sure they are all the same limit and game, i play far from optimally but in the long run i play well enough to beat the game for more than 1/4 of what my win rate would be 1 tabling and more than 1/2 winrate 2 tabling etc.........................

I do use PT with PA hud and i find this a necessity and play without overlap. I also play quite a straightforward game but i do take notes constantly and try to watch big pots that evolve on each table so i can adjust my game to the various players.  Also i do a little that every 15 mins i try to go through each table and go through in my mind (and sometimes outloud) what i know about every one of my opponents.

I did go through a break multitabling stt's on stars and i found that i could easily cope with 6 or 7 turbos at once. I did try playing 10 but found that too many.

Also another thing with multitabling is that stops a certain amount of boredom during cold cards and stops me getting FPS (fancy play syndrome)
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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2007, 09:08:48 PM »

I find i can win playing 4 STTs/MTTs, but need to develop my focus more to play 8. I seem to lose when playing 6-8. I can play upto 8 cash tables though.

Could never play like 30.
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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2007, 09:09:18 PM »

As tikay points out there is hardly a person alive that wouldn't play better if they only played one game at once, but i would disagree with the optimium level for making £/ per hour for everyone is 1/2 tables.

I play 4 cash games at once making sure they are all the same limit and game, i play far from optimally but in the long run i play well enough to beat the game for more than 1/4 of what my win rate would be 1 tabling and more than 1/2 winrate 2 tabling etc.........................

I do use PT with PA hud and i find this a necessity and play without overlap. I also play quite a straightforward game but i do take notes constantly and try to watch big pots that evolve on each table so i can adjust my game to the various players.  Also i do a little that every 15 mins i try to go through each table and go through in my mind (and sometimes outloud) what i know about every one of my opponents.

I did go through a break multitabling stt's on stars and i found that i could easily cope with 6 or 7 turbos at once. I did try playing 10 but found that too many.

Also another thing with multitabling is that stops a certain amount of boredom during cold cards and stops me getting FPS (fancy play syndrome)

The optimum varies from person to person, I don't disagree that yours is maybe 4 or even more. Just don't try convincing me you can play 10 or 15 or 20 as well as you can play 1 o 2 or 4 'cos that kite won't ever fly! NOBODY can play 20 at a time as well as they can play 1 or 2 at a time. End of.
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« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2007, 09:10:28 PM »

Here is the post with gank .  46 tables

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=11354.0
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« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2007, 09:10:55 PM »

I find i can win playing 4 STTs/MTTs, but need to develop my focus more to play 8. I seem to lose when playing 6-8. I can play upto 8 cash tables though.

Could never play like 30.

CAN play 8, CAN play 10, CAN play 20, CAN play 30, that's not the point. Even I can play 20. It's playing them optimally that's key.
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« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2007, 09:12:20 PM »

open to suggestions, something fast, maybe that busta rhymes knightrider remix.

Don't stop me now?
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« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2007, 09:12:32 PM »

lol,  what is going on in your head while playing 21 tables?   is it panic, stress and confusion  or is it calm and relaxed? .  I must be a bit dim  Cheesy , I get mixed up with two tables 

I wonder if older players such as Doyle Brunson and TJ Cloutier prefer playing one table rather than a lot. I have heard them say a few things about internet players in the past which led me to believe that they weren't into multi tabling.

Are there any internet pro's who only play a single table?

Pretty relaxed.
The most tables I can tile with no overlap is 20 so when I play over 20 I just stack them up on top of each other and use the popup feature.
When I make my action that table vanishes and the next one in line pops up.
So obviously I'm playing these pretty much readless but I still think I'm +ev in them at the lower levels and anyway I'm just playing that many for a laugh so my plan to try to play 30 tables at once will be at the lowest buyin so I don't care if it's profitable or not, it's just a bit of fun.

I just need to get a macro script working for auto-registering for games. The two that are around just now don't work for me and it takes too many seconds to do it manually each time :-(




I think if you're learning or trying to improve your game at a certain level (like, you're moving up to a higher buyin cashgame or learning to play limit omaha SNGs or whatever really) then it makes sense to play 1 or 2 tables so you can sit and observe and think deeper about things.

For multitabling optimal in $/hr terms for most players who are already crushing the game would be around 6-8 tables for cash and 9-12 for SNGs where the decisions are a lot easier.
Using macros to map keys to functions will help a lot. For SNGs I use a modded version of _dave_'s betpot script so that i can press F1 to fold, F2 to check/call and F3 to push, and the mousewheel to set bet amout.

I made a video of myself playing 21 SNGs withouttiming out last night just for a laugh, i think if I can get up to 30 without timing out I'll put it on youtube, should be good fun 

Dale makes my point perfectly!

How about 40 tables? 50? 60? How cool would that be, eh?

That would be amazing !!! I'd love to see that being done. Probably not possible on stars since they made the time to act only 12 seconds now.
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« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2007, 09:12:56 PM »

open to suggestions, something fast, maybe that busta rhymes knightrider remix.

Don't stop me now?

excellent, ty Claw
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« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2007, 09:13:03 PM »


Dale makes my point perfectly!

How about 40 tables? 50? 60? How cool would that be, eh?


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« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2007, 09:13:56 PM »

I find i can win playing 4 STTs/MTTs, but need to develop my focus more to play 8. I seem to lose when playing 6-8. I can play upto 8 cash tables though.

Could never play like 30.

CAN play 8, CAN play 10, CAN play 20, CAN play 30, that's not the point. Even I can play 20. It's playing them optimally that's key.

ive been told 
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