How could this happen?

[RED-DOG]

One time I was given permission by a farmer to walk his land with my dogs. Someone reported me, and the police arrested me on suspicion of tresspass in persuit of game. I explained that I had permission, and that all they had to do was ask the farmer, but instead they locked my dogs in the car and put me in a cell for 18 hours.

When they finally got around to asking the farmer, he confirmed that I did indeed have permission to be on the land in persuit of game. They released me without apology and left me to make my own way back to my car where my dogs had been left without food, water, shade or the opportunity to relieve themselves..

[Sark79]

I heard on the news that Greyhounds don't bark a lot? . I had a Lurcher who was collie/greyhound and he barked a fair bit  . Anyway, on the news, it said if the dog had come from a bad home, he would be too afraid to bark to attract attention incase he was hit by his owners presuming he came from a bad home . This makes the story sadder as he was unable to bark to attract attention.  Poor little guy

[Sark79]

One time I was given permission by a farmer to walk his land with my dogs. Someone reported me, and the police arrested me on suspicion of tresspass in persuit of game. I explained that I had permission, and that all they had to do was ask the farmer, but instead they locked my dogs in the car and put me in a cell for 18 hours.

When they finally got around to asking the farmer, he confirmed that I did indeed have permission to be on the land in persuit of game. They released me without apology and left me to make my own way back to my car where my dogs had been left without food, water, shade or the opportunity to relieve themselves..

Thats terrible.  I bet this sort of thing happens a lot

[AndrewT]

I disagree with you here. Although it may be an 'honest' mistake, it is police incompetence that has lead for this to happen. Someone has to pay for this. As someone posted earlier, what would happen if they locked a human up and forgot about him/her, causing them to die a slow painful death of starvation/dehydration. I don't think the 'honest mistake' excuse would wash there.

This phrase suggests retribution is your motive - what do you suggest?

[Mango99]

I disagree with you here. Although it may be an 'honest' mistake, it is police incompetence that has lead for this to happen. Someone has to pay for this. As someone posted earlier, what would happen if they locked a human up and forgot about him/her, causing them to die a slow painful death of starvation/dehydration. I don't think the 'honest mistake' excuse would wash there.

This phrase suggests retribution is your motive - what do you suggest?

Not sure what you mean by that. Are you suggesting that nothing is done at all?

What I'm saying is that someone should be brought to account for what happened. If someone simply has their wrists slapped, or worse still, nothing at all is done, then what message does that give?

[AndrewT]

I disagree with you here. Although it may be an 'honest' mistake, it is police incompetence that has lead for this to happen. Someone has to pay for this. As someone posted earlier, what would happen if they locked a human up and forgot about him/her, causing them to die a slow painful death of starvation/dehydration. I don't think the 'honest mistake' excuse would wash there.

This phrase suggests retribution is your motive - what do you suggest?

Not sure what you mean by that. Are you suggesting that nothing is done at all?

What I'm saying is that someone should be brought to account for what happened. If someone simply has their wrists slapped, or worse still, nothing at all is done, then what message does that give?

My point was the phrase 'Someone has to pay for this'. You didn't say 'brought to account' or 'they should ensure this can't happen again' - phrases which would suggest appropriate punishment and action.

'Someone has to pay for this' is overly aggressive language - this suggests revenge, which is not the correct basis for a justice system.

[Mango99]

'Someone has to pay for this' is overly aggressive language - this suggests revenge, which is not the correct basis for a justice system.

Fair enough. It does appear to be clumsily phrased by me.

I agree that revenge is a poor basis for a justice system, and certainly don't believe in 'an eye for an eye', no matter how insidious the crime.

I guess I was angered so much by the story that I didn't keep my tongue in check. Will re-check my posts before submitting next time to ensure that I am getting the correct meaning across and not using overly emotive language.

[AndrewT]

'Someone has to pay for this' is overly aggressive language - this suggests revenge, which is not the correct basis for a justice system.

Fair enough. It does appear to be clumsily phrased by me.

I agree that revenge is a poor basis for a justice system, and certainly don't believe in 'an eye for an eye', no matter how insidious the crime.

I guess I was angered so much by the story that I didn't keep my tongue in check. Will re-check my posts before submitting next time to ensure that I am getting the correct meaning across and not using overly emotive language.

I'm not having a go or anything - it's just that I've often noticed that discussions about bad things happening to animals seem to have a greater amount of knee-jerking than those about bad things happening to humans.

[Sark79]

I think it is just because animals get a worse deal than another victim .  We feel we have to protect them as they can't argue their own defence. We should protect them, they have as much right to be here as anyone.

[AndrewT]

I think it is just because animals get a worse deal than another victim .  We feel we have to protect them as they can't argue their own defence. We should protect them, they have as much right to be here as anyone.

I know it's a whole different discussion but, for me, people >>> animals.

[Rod Paradise]

If I'd been temping in a different office fom my usual base, and made a cock up that killed a dog I'd be heart-broken. I'd also be expecting censured by my work for it. I'd not expect my familly more affected than my upset = me getting sacked would be too much IMHO and I'd be sueing for all i could, for them at least.

[JungleCat03]

This seems like a protocol error rather than anything malicious.

In cases where owners have intentionally mistreated and abused their dogs, punishing these people for their cruelty is right.This is a far cry from that situation though. It's a sad situation that the dog died but the nature of some of the responses suggesting retribution are ridiculous.

Update procedures so that measures are in place and punish any officers whose negligence led to this APPROPRIATELY  to ensure this doesn't happen again.

Saying that humans are afforded better protection than dogs is right. Human rights are more important than animal rights in my view.

You hear the stories of animal rights activists setting up bombs to target people working for vivisection organisations. To me these people have mental health issues and a severely damaged moral compass.

[Colchester Kev]

This seems like a protocol error rather than anything malicious.

In cases where owners have intentionally mistreated and abused their dogs, punishing these people for their cruelty is right.This is a far cry from that situation though. It's a sad situation that the dog died but the nature of some of the responses suggesting retribution are ridiculous.

Update procedures so that measures are in place and punish any officers whose negligence led to this APPROPRIATELY  to ensure this doesn't happen again.

Saying that humans are afforded better protection than dogs is right. Human rights are more important than animal rights in my view.

You hear the stories of animal rights activists setting up bombs to target people working for vivisection organisations. To me these people have mental health issues and a severely damaged moral compass.

I would get flushy to open all the mail for the next few days mate, just to be on the safe side

[Royal Flush]

This seems like a protocol error rather than anything malicious.

In cases where owners have intentionally mistreated and abused their dogs, punishing these people for their cruelty is right.This is a far cry from that situation though. It's a sad situation that the dog died but the nature of some of the responses suggesting retribution are ridiculous.

Update procedures so that measures are in place and punish any officers whose negligence led to this APPROPRIATELY  to ensure this doesn't happen again.

Saying that humans are afforded better protection than dogs is right. Human rights are more important than animal rights in my view.

You hear the stories of animal rights activists setting up bombs to target people working for vivisection organisations. To me these people have mental health issues and a severely damaged moral compass.

I would get flushy to open all the mail for the next few days mate, just to be on the safe side

So thats what the pile of paper by the door is....

[JungleCat03]

As long as the bombs aren't triggered by a fish proximity device, we should be ok.