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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2007, 12:15:44 PM »

Re-raise 572.39
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2007, 01:26:00 PM »

pretty standard push id have thought
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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2007, 03:14:21 PM »

Id probably just call then do the standard check/fold move on the flop.

I cant see many hands you can beat when hes re raised 200 more if you push, but you might aswell call 200 then fold when you miss the flop.
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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2007, 04:02:51 PM »

What if you hit the flop with the Q? what is the difference? You must jam preflop or pass if you genuinely believe the tard has AA.

If its AK you win one in 3 its KK you win one in 3 anything else you are ahead or racing. If you are going to play, you must push pre. You have 4k he has 500 more chips. His stack is going in post-flop regardless of the texture of the flop, so are you going to let him out play you with AJ or less?
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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2007, 04:20:34 PM »

This is the easiest Push I have seen in a long time.
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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2007, 04:31:07 PM »

Re-raise 572.39
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« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2007, 04:33:44 PM »

This is the easiest Push I have seen in a long time.

I initially didnt pick up that he was the short stack -but I still think that a big reraise but not a push is better because of the possibility that the limper is slow playing some sort of monster.  
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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2007, 04:34:43 PM »

Re-raise 572.39

Dont think this is Ladbrokes - where that would be standard.
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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2007, 04:54:45 PM »

This is the easiest Push I have seen in a long time.

I initially didnt pick up that he was the short stack -but I still think that a big reraise but not a push is better because of the possibility that the limper is slow playing some sort of monster.  

but you would  commit the limper to the pot anyways by making a large bet. He only has 1800 back. If you decide to raise upto 1k he is never going to fold for the extra 800.
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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2007, 05:37:10 PM »

Boldie, what about the clear fact that he obviously has AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK.

You cant just conviently put him on AJ or A 10.
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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2007, 05:55:09 PM »

This is the easiest Push I have seen in a long time.

I initially didnt pick up that he was the short stack -but I still think that a big reraise but not a push is better because of the possibility that the limper is slow playing some sort of monster.  

but you would  commit the limper to the pot anyways by making a large bet. He only has 1800 back. If you decide to raise upto 1k he is never going to fold for the extra 800.

Your right - in as much as if he moves in we cant fold
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« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2007, 07:30:35 PM »

Boldie, what about the clear fact that he obviously has AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK.

You cant just conviently put him on AJ or A 10.

This range is hideously tight. Even TT+ AQ+ is too tight. A 10 BB stack will always be playing a wider range than this barring some peculiar extra information you have on his raising habits, regardless of an unorthodox min raise. 

Even if u put him on JJ+, AK it's very very close to being +EV (av. 704 chips returned from 740 invested) and the benefit of showing down a premium hand as your raising requirement would swing a call for me (with no prospect of going busto)

You can't put him on an exact hand in this situation. It's all about ranges.
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« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2007, 05:08:48 AM »

I took about 0.3 seconds before pushing in, the button folded and the min raiser called.

He had Q9o and missed, i won the pot.
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« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2007, 09:15:31 AM »

Boldie, what about the clear fact that he obviously has AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK.

You cant just conviently put him on AJ or A 10.

I'd have to agree with Junglecat here, what makes/made (now that flushy has posted) you think he obviously  has AA,KK etc?
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« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2007, 03:27:06 PM »

Well played Flushy, it was an obvious push, Horneris seemed to refuse though, if you had just called, thats just giving him the ooportunity to shove in on the flop and then u cant call if u dont hit
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