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[boldie]

It's a well known fact that most poker players, myself included, suffer from an almost irresistible urge to tell everyone their bad beat stories. We post them on the forum, or worse still, we button-hole some poor sod during the break in a tourney and regale them with our bad luck stories. We interupt their conversations and insist they listen. We grab their arm and turn them around to face us. Totally oblivious to the fact that their eyes have glazed over, or that they are desperately trying to escape by pretending that they have suddenly taken short, we polugh on, determined to make sure they understand exactly how unlucky we are.

Why do we do it? Well I've been thinking about that over the last year or so, and I've come to the conclusion that it's mostly because we need to prove to ourselves, and to everyone else, that we didn't lose because we played badly, but because the other guy got lucky. We need the sympathy of others, to share in, and therefore somehow ease our pain.

Slowly, I've come to realise that there is little or no benefit in telling bad beat stories, not for you, and certainly not for the poor wretched soul who is forced to listen. Not only that, but when you allow yourself to get on a "why does it happen to me" trip, it's easy to subconsciously put poor play down to bad luck.

Luck plays a huge part in poker, your game has to be better than your opponents over a long period to overcome that short term luck. Constantly telling bad beat stories just goes to prove that you haven't accepted that yet.

Unless I'm doing a tourney report, genuinely asking for an opinion on my play, or someone asks me directly how I went out, I try not to tell bad beat stories now. It's tough, I don't always manage it. Sometimes they just force themselves out of my mouth (or my keyboard) during that venerable period immediately post beat, before I have got my emotions under controll, but at least I have got to the stage where I kick myself for my weakness afterwards.

I haven't mastered it yet, but I'm convinced that keeping schtum when the nut hand you flopped is beaten by that two outer on the river will not only do wonders for your popularity, but is the first step on the road to serenity.

Please ignore this post.

In a moment of clarity this morning, I realised what it really means, I'M ON TILT!!

All the signs are there, the pompus posts, the comfort eating eating, the shouting at annoying TV adverts, the crying.......


Help meeeeeee.......!   Post your tilt remedies here!

I actually thought it was an excellent post. I try to do the same. I also hear the old "I had it cracked 5 times now, I am never playing it again" remark a lot. Bad beat stories and superstition about a certain hand "always" getting cracked only lead to you playing poorly and not doing what you should be doing IMO. A positive mind set means a lot in poker and bad beat stories sure as hell don't do you any favours in that department. The shame is that it is ever so tempting to go along with the "See, how badly I got sucked out" conversation. As soon as you ask someone how they got on during the week they come up with an excuse as to why they didn't win any money (atleast that's what it looks like) and it does my head in.

[thetank]

The people who quote their recent coinflip statistics get my goat.

I've only won 2 of my last 17.

Oh really, why 17? What made you select that number for your sample size?

[thetank]

RED, get the Ladbrokes Daddy won again, should sort yer tilt oot.

If it takes you 6 months, be patient.

[boldie]

The people who quote their recent coinflip statistics get my goat.

I've only won 2 of my last 17.

Oh really, why 17? What made you select that number for your sample size?

I'm thinking it's ussually because they have to pull their pants down to get to the place they pull their numbers from.

[doubleup]

The people who quote their recent coinflip statistics get my goat.

I've only won 2 of my last 17.

Oh really, why 17? What made you select that number for your sample size?

I'm thinking it's ussually because they have to pull their pants down to get to the place they pull their numbers from.

I did actually analyse all-ins from the turn of the year (30k hands)- to see whether I was sticking it in with the worst of it too often.  I think it is something worth doing if the sample size is large enough.

[boldie]

The people who quote their recent coinflip statistics get my goat.

I've only won 2 of my last 17.

Oh really, why 17? What made you select that number for your sample size?

I'm thinking it's ussually because they have to pull their pants down to get to the place they pull their numbers from.

I did actually analyse all-ins from the turn of the year (30k hands)- to see whether I was sticking it in with the worst of it too often.  I think it is something worth doing if the sample size is large enough.

yeah but you're talking 30k hands. Most people only take a ridiculously small sample and that's where the problem is (or they start counting from the time they got unlucky and don't count the hot streak they were on before they got sucked out a few times)

[SupaMonkey]

Just get your money in when you're behind, then you don't have to worry about getting outdrawn.

[booder]

Just get your money in when you're behind, then you don't have to worry about getting outdrawn.

word

[boldie]

Just get your money in when you're behind, then you don't have to worry about getting outdrawn.

That's the way i do it...saves me a lot of hassle.

[SupaMonkey]

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=19578.msg399735#msg399735

[boldie]

 

you card rack

[Eck]

It's a well known fact that most poker players, myself included, suffer from an almost irresistible urge to tell everyone their bad beat stories. We post them on the forum, or worse still, we button-hole some poor sod during the break in a tourney and regale them with our bad luck stories. We interupt their conversations and insist they listen. We grab their arm and turn them around to face us. Totally oblivious to the fact that their eyes have glazed over, or that they are desperately trying to escape by pretending that they have suddenly taken short, we polugh on, determined to make sure they understand exactly how unlucky we are.

Why do we do it? Well I've been thinking about that over the last year or so, and I've come to the conclusion that it's mostly because we need to prove to ourselves, and to everyone else, that we didn't lose because we played badly, but because the other guy got lucky. We need the sympathy of others, to share in, and therefore somehow ease our pain.

Slowly, I've come to realise that there is little or no benefit in telling bad beat stories, not for you, and certainly not for the poor wretched soul who is forced to listen. Not only that, but when you allow yourself to get on a "why does it happen to me" trip, it's easy to subconsciously put poor play down to bad luck.

Luck plays a huge part in poker, your game has to be better than your opponents over a long period to overcome that short term luck. Constantly telling bad beat stories just goes to prove that you haven't accepted that yet.

Unless I'm doing a tourney report, genuinely asking for an opinion on my play, or someone asks me directly how I went out, I try not to tell bad beat stories now. It's tough, I don't always manage it. Sometimes they just force themselves out of my mouth (or my keyboard) during that venerable period immediately post beat, before I have got my emotions under controll, but at least I have got to the stage where I kick myself for my weakness afterwards.

I haven't mastered it yet, but I'm convinced that keeping schtum when the nut hand you flopped is beaten by that two outer on the river will not only do wonders for your popularity, but is the first step on the road to serenity.

Please ignore this post.

In a moment of clarity this morning, I realised what it really means, I'M ON TILT!!

All the signs are there, the pompus posts, the comfort eating eating, the shouting at annoying TV adverts, the crying.......


Help meeeeeee.......!   Post your tilt remedies here!

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[TightPaulFolds]

I guess the more you play the more you realise that shit just happens. All in with AA v KK and he hit a K? Tough luck, the shoe will be on the other foot enough times. What is harder to comes to terms with is the way you try to build up a rough picture of what makes any opponent tick, just to be left thinking...wtf? I guess for success you need to have a fairly decent handle on why your opponent does what he does. It's when it comes to showdown and he's got runner runner inside, all in on the flop, it's not so much the bad luck that floors you (shit happens), its the feeling that you may at times have no idea why he is doing what he is doing. I had trip , they got cracked, I've done it to others plenty of times. But you are left scratching your head thinking..he raises, I reraise, and he puts me all in with f*ck all, and hits, I need to understand what it is that makes him think this is such a good idea. Which is why sometimes these stories are told.
But yeah, on the whole, bad beat stories are f*cking boring.

[boldie]

I guess the more you play the more you realise that shit just happens. All in with AA v KK and he hit a K? Tough luck, the shoe will be on the other foot enough times. What is harder to comes to terms with is the way you try to build up a rough picture of what makes any opponent tick, just to be left thinking...wtf? I guess for success you need to have a fairly decent handle on why your opponent does what he does. It's when it comes to showdown and he's got runner runner inside, all in on the flop, it's not so much the bad luck that floors you (shit happens), its the feeling that you may at times have no idea why he is doing what he is doing. I had trip , they got cracked, I've done it to others plenty of times. But you are left scratching your head thinking..he raises, I reraise, and he puts me all in with f*ck all, and hits, I need to understand what it is that makes him think this is such a good idea. Which is why sometimes these stories are told.
But yeah, on the whole, bad beat stories are f*cking boring.

Ussually I don't give a crap what someone who plays like that thinks. Unless they are a half decent player who puts me on a bluff. Most of the players you are up against just do it and it's nothing but a bad play...they get lucky and still have no idea that they did something wrong. bless 'em.

Ofcourse the AA getting cracked by KK happens 20% of the time so taht's just the way it goes.

[TightPaulFolds]

Ussually I don't give a crap what someone who plays like that thinks. Unless they are a half decent player who puts me on a bluff. Most of the players you are up against just do it and it's nothing but a bad play...they get lucky and still have no idea that they did something wrong. bless 'em.

Ofcourse the AA getting cracked by KK happens 20% of the time so taht's just the way it goes.

There can only be money at lower limit poker if quite a few people are playing badly on a consistent basis, bad beats just go to highlight this. The fact that people are calling all-ins on 5% shots, just goes to show how things are stacked against them.
Will never forget the look on that guy's face when you bust his final table AK with your AJ. He nearly tried to pull out that lolipop stick...