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ifm
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Re: 300 years is long enough!!!
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February 14, 2007, 12:11:18 PM »
Figures have shown that, per head, the government always spend less on people living in England. The North of Ireland being the most costly as it were.
Not only should we have our own devolved parliament, we should have a new National Anthem. Look at Wales, "Land Of Our Fathers" A song celebrating the glory of Wales. Look at Scotland, they seem to have adopted "Flower Of Scotland" A song of scottish pride and what do we have? "God Save The Queen", a song that has nothing to do with the majesty of England but something that is nothing more than a slave song praising whoever has the DNA to preside over us lowly serfs.
One thing I've noticed is those who are most keen to move away from the Union flag is the English. Yes it has connotations with the far right etc but English people have quite rightly put the St George's Cross at the forefront of "Englishness". We want away from the union more than anyone, we want to reclaim our Englishness, just as our Irish, Scottish and Welsh brothers and sisters have done.
How do you define Englishness? You can't really as it's just us, but to me it's tolerance and respect to all others and pride in ourselves. Britain as a concept is moribund, only because we are better than that, we as a people know it and don't cling on to past glories. We love all those who share our sceptered isle with us and share a kindred spirit. Identity on a national level is thankfully not what it was. We've had a bad time of it in the press, certainly in the way that every single fight abroad regarding Football is always wrongly considered the fault of the English. A stereotype that is pathetic, we do not base our opinions on ill thought out stereotypes, we do not judge a book by it's cover. I say judge us on who we are, not the media's portrayal. We are a country built on the understanding of other cultures and ways of life. We are the most vibrant and cosmopolitan country you can find.
We are English, the old days of imperialism are dead. We have every reason to be proud.
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Re: 300 years is long enough!!!
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February 14, 2007, 12:13:38 PM »
Copy and paste from the daily Mail ??
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Re: 300 years is long enough!!!
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February 14, 2007, 12:30:16 PM »
I only read the Sun (and look at the pictures in the Sport)
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Re: 300 years is long enough!!!
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February 14, 2007, 01:04:45 PM »
Quote from: ifm on February 14, 2007, 12:11:18 PM
Figures have shown that, per head, the government always spend less on people living in England. The North of Ireland being the most costly as it were.
Not only should we have our own devolved parliament, we should have a new National Anthem. Look at Wales, "Land Of Our Fathers" A song celebrating the glory of Wales. Look at Scotland, they seem to have adopted "Flower Of Scotland" A song of scottish pride and what do we have? "God Save The Queen", a song that has nothing to do with the majesty of England but something that is nothing more than a slave song praising whoever has the DNA to preside over us lowly serfs.
One thing I've noticed is those who are most keen to move away from the Union flag is the English. Yes it has connotations with the far right etc but English people have quite rightly put the St George's Cross at the forefront of "Englishness". We want away from the union more than anyone, we want to reclaim our Englishness, just as our Irish, Scottish and Welsh brothers and sisters have done.
How do you define Englishness? You can't really as it's just us, but to me it's tolerance and respect to all others and pride in ourselves. Britain as a concept is moribund, only because we are better than that, we as a people know it and don't cling on to past glories. We love all those who share our sceptered isle with us and share a kindred spirit. Identity on a national level is thankfully not what it was. We've had a bad time of it in the press, certainly in the way that every single fight abroad regarding Football is always wrongly considered the fault of the English. A stereotype that is pathetic, we do not base our opinions on ill thought out stereotypes, we do not judge a book by it's cover. I say judge us on who we are, not the media's portrayal. We are a country built on the understanding of other cultures and ways of life. We are the most vibrant and cosmopolitan country you can find.
We are English, the old days of imperialism are dead. We have every reason to be proud.
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Re: 300 years is long enough!!!
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Hunting ban doesnt stop farmers killing foxes? They can shoot as many as they like, 60 people chasing 1 fox isn't exactly an efficient culling method.
1 farmer with gun v 20 foxes a better method
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