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« on: September 23, 2005, 12:36:45 PM » |
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From Ciaffone "Middle Limit Hold Em Poker" could'nt resist...not sure I agree with their answer this time either......!!! Question -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A $30-$60 game. An early player opens with a raise and you call with the ah ks. A middle player and the big blind call. There is $260 in the pot and four players. The flop is: asp jh  , giving you top pair, top kicker. The big blind comes out betting. The preflop raiser reluctantly calls. You raise. The next player folds. The big blind reraises and the preflop raiser now folds. You call. There is $470 in the pot and two players. The turn is the  . The big blind bets. What do you do? Answer  |
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2005, 12:40:24 PM » |
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Not very good at this, however is it not true that if you have asp kd you should not let it go for any reason and therfore you should raise
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The very last hand of the night goes to Dewi James, who finds ACES and talks Raymond O’Mahoney into calling his all-in preflop bet of 15k. “If I had AQ, I’d call!” says Dewi. Raymond calls holding pocket 66’s.
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2005, 12:41:19 PM » |
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or is that just Ironside
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The very last hand of the night goes to Dewi James, who finds ACES and talks Raymond O’Mahoney into calling his all-in preflop bet of 15k. “If I had AQ, I’d call!” says Dewi. Raymond calls holding pocket 66’s.
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2005, 12:42:44 PM » |
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Call him down.
Almost certainly wrong but thats what i would do.
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2005, 12:45:54 PM » |
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HAving given this some more thought I would raise as the raiser is obviously holding  |
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The very last hand of the night goes to Dewi James, who finds ACES and talks Raymond O’Mahoney into calling his all-in preflop bet of 15k. “If I had AQ, I’d call!” says Dewi. Raymond calls holding pocket 66’s.
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Royal Flush
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2005, 12:46:31 PM » |
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Raise or Fold. DONT CALL
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[19:44:40] Oracle: WE'RE ALL GOING ON A SPANISH HOLIDAY! TRIGGS STABLES SHIT!
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ariston
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2005, 12:48:19 PM » |
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Ciaffone will probably go into 16pages of maths on why it is correct to fold in this situation. I however would call it down. Even if the BB does have me beat I just dont think I could fold in a limit game for the size of the pot (probably why I rarely play limit). Yes I may be drawing dead so pot odds don't come into it but I pay the extra 2 big bets. If I lived in Elgin I think I would probably cap it on the flop, turn and river as AK can never be beat  |
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better lucky than good
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2005, 12:50:31 PM » |
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Raise or fold flushy? In limit it is correct to just call it down sometimes- there is no need to define your hand by raising as are you going to fold if he 3bets you? Poker is a game of oppinions but raising here would just cost you an extra 2 bets if he does have you beat.
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ariston
better lucky than good
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2005, 01:09:24 PM » |
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yeah i'd reluctantly call it down waiting to see two pair or trips....  theres 530 in the pot and it's gonna cost you 120 to see his cards, so if you think on hand history / notes that there's a better than 20% chance you have him beaten, i think calling is the right option... |
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There's gotta be a way! He who dares wins! There's a million quids worth of gold out there - our gold. We can't just say 'bonjour' to it.
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2005, 02:58:39 PM » |
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Raise or fold flushy? In limit it is correct to just call it down sometimes- there is no need to define your hand by raising as are you going to fold if he 3bets you? Poker is a game of oppinions but raising here would just cost you an extra 2 bets if he does have you beat.
If i decide not to fold here i would raise. If he 3 bets then yes i can pass, as he is unlikely to do this without a set. If he flat calls then i can check the river if i think i am beat, if i catch my K then i get an extra bet. Costs the same when i am beat and i win more when i win. |
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[19:44:40] Oracle: WE'RE ALL GOING ON A SPANISH HOLIDAY! TRIGGS STABLES SHIT!
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2005, 03:02:55 PM » |
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2 quick questions before i answer the puzzle
1) what day is this hand being played on?
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2) What colour is the dealers hair?
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TightEnd
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2005, 03:03:49 PM » |
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Thursday
She's a redhead
Cute too
Now what would you do?
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2005, 03:07:30 PM » |
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.. and do I still get a luxury?
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TightEnd
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2005, 03:09:40 PM » |
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Your luxury is to go first
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My eyes are open wide
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Robert HM
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2005, 03:14:47 PM » |
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I would raise with clenched buttocks
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