Suited Connectors

[snoopy1239]

You're on day 2 of a big 3 day comp.

2 away from the cut-off on a full table you have and decide to make a raise of 2k (blinds 300/600).

With a stack of around 45-50k (about the same as yours), an ultra high stakes but very serious tournament player smooth calls from the neighbouring seat after a momentary pause.

Flop =

You check and so does he.

Turn =

You bet 4k and he calls.

River =

(1) What do you do here?

(2) Would you have checked the Flop?

(3) Would you have bet the Turn?

(4) What do you think your opponent has?

[boldie]

You're on day 2 of a big 3 day comp.

2 away from the cut-off on a full table you have and decide to make a raise of 2k (blinds 300/600).

With a stack of around 45-50k (about the same as yours), an ultra high stakes but very serious tournament player smooth calls from the neighbouring seat after a momentary pause.

Flop =

You check and so does he.

Turn =

You bet 4k and he calls.

River =

(1) What do you do here?

(2) Would you have checked the Flop?

(3) Would you have bet the Turn?

(4) What do you think your opponent has?

1; check.

2; No, i would have bet it. I'm representing the ace and will then see what he does.

3; No.

Essentially. If I had raised, I would have continued to bet the flop for about 4-5k. If he had called there I would have considered myself to be in massive amounts of trouble when the turn comes as it is beyond dangerous and probably have given the pot up there.

[doubleup]

Snoopy a couple of questions

Has he been in the habit of calling a lot of raises?

Has the original raiser been raising a lot?

[snoopy1239]

Snoopy a couple of questions

Has he been in the habit of calling a lot of raises?

Has the original raiser been raising a lot?

It's a brand new table and one of the first few hands of the day, but we do that the pre-flop caller is a know player with a reputation as a good solid player, not a rock, but no maniac either.

[TightEnd]

I  would bet the flop representing with outs if I am called

I'd have another crack on the turn, if called on the flop


the way it is played, i don't like giving up with a check, I bet on the river


either way I am firing two bullets (flop/turn or turn/river)




and if you beleive that you will beleive anything!

[doubleup]

He might well have 9s9x. I would check and might call depending on the size of any bet.

[Table Manners]

I would check and might call depending on the size of any bet.

[AlexMartin]

He might well have 9s9x. I would check and might call depending on the size of any bet.

are you serious?

[AlexMartin]

You're on day 2 of a big 3 day comp.

2 away from the cut-off on a full table you have and decide to make a raise of 2k (blinds 300/600).

With a stack of around 45-50k (about the same as yours), an ultra high stakes but very serious tournament player smooth calls from the neighbouring seat after a momentary pause.

Flop =

You check and so does he.

Turn =

You bet 4k and he calls.

River =

(1) What do you do here?

(2) Would you have checked the Flop?

(3) Would you have bet the Turn?

(4) What do you think your opponent has?

the order of your questions is annoying snoops - im giving answers in a more structured order.

1) Bet the flop you have outs, you represented strength preflop, maintain strength.

2) If he calls on that flop im giving the hand up when that ugly 10s comes on the turn. Name a hand that calls a flop bet that you are beating.

3) I think he has a reasonably big ace like AQ/AJ/A10 with the A spades.

[doubleup]

I think he has a reasonably big ace like AQ/AJ/A10 with the A spades.

If he is as good a player as Snoopy suggests there is no way he's calling a mp preflop raise with AJ or AT.  If he calls with AQ I'm sure he bets the flop.

He has either improved in some way with the turn card - TT and 9s9x both improve and are credible pre-flop holdings - or he felt very strong all along e.g AsAx.

[snoopy1239]

The player did indeed bet, 10k in fact, and his opponent, who was Markus Gosler, folded A-Q.

Amazing I thought.

[boldie]

The player did indeed bet, 10k in fact, and his opponent, who was Markus Gosler, folded A-Q.

Amazing I thought.

Where did Markus fold..on the river? hmm well that's what you get for being passive on the flop.

[snoopy1239]

The player did indeed bet, 10k in fact, and his opponent, who was Markus Gosler, folded A-Q.

Amazing I thought.

Where did Markus fold..on the river? hmm well that's what you get for being passive on the flop.

I thought it was a quite remarkable hand, and that was proven when you did pretty much everything differently.

I think the most bizarre thing was not that he made the risky (or was it simply passive) check on the Flop, but when he called with his top pair on the Turn only to fold to a blank on the River. Doesn't make sense to me.

I was also wondering why the guy bet his pair of tens on the River, when he's probably only going to be called by a better hand. I can understand a block bet of 5k say, but 10k seems odd. I was wrong though because he folded!

[SupaMonkey]

Surely, the call on the turn shows that our pair of 10's is no good so the bet on the end is a bluff.

[NoflopsHomer]

Hate the flop check, any card from K to 7 or a spade is a potential scare card on turn.