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« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2007, 03:17:51 AM »

1 question, how can you "turnover a loss" turnover is just the money you have coming in.

Chelsea definately made a loss last year so that table wasn't showing profit.

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« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2007, 03:23:20 AM »

The table I put in is of total club income. It is for the 2004-2005 season not 2005-2006 season so would not obviously include the 83 million chelsea deficit of last year
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« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2007, 03:25:14 AM »

The table I put in is of total club income. It is for the 2004-2005 season not 2005-2006 season so would not obviously include the 83 million chelsea deficit of last year

Chelsea have operated at a loss for the last two years I think. Nemesis will know more than I will though.
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« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2007, 03:26:44 AM »

this is extrated from same article i lifted the table from.
"As a consequence, Chelsea came fifth in the table with income of £149m despite making a record £140m loss last season"

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« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2007, 03:27:59 AM »

so is this
"The Deloitte review does not include the cost of transfer fees or player wages and concentrates solely on day-to-day income from football business such as ticket sales, merchandising and broadcast revenues"

 

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« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2007, 03:30:03 AM »

Back to the Spurs-Newcastle argument Nem, with the factors mentioned above, why is Spurs bigger than Newcastle?
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« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2007, 03:32:00 AM »

Back to the Spurs-Newcastle argument Nem, with the factors mentioned above, why is Spurs bigger than Newcastle?

Because Nem supports Spurs.
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« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2007, 03:33:29 AM »

Back to the Spurs-Newcastle argument Nem, with the factors mentioned above, why is Spurs bigger than Newcastle?

Because Nem supports Spurs.

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« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2007, 04:23:47 AM »

Fan Base

Stadium

Success

History


Tis why Leeds and Forest are still big clubs, even though the success has gone. The other 3 factors remain.

I saw a survey where we were still the 7th best supported club in the country despite being bottom of the Championship.
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« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2007, 04:25:51 AM »

In my opinion, Barceolna are the worlds biggest club.
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« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2007, 09:50:14 AM »

Back to the Spurs-Newcastle argument Nem, with the factors mentioned above, why is Spurs bigger than Newcastle?

Tottenham Hotspur have been winning trophies consistently for the last 50 years. We have also only spent one season out of the top division in the last 50 years.

Newcastle have consistently been shite over the last 50 years. They were a yo-yo club before 1993 and in the 80's their average attendance was 12,000. They have most probably spent as much time out of the top division than in it in the last 50 years. They also haven't won a major trophy in 40 years!

I too think that Barcelona are the worlds biggest club.

IMO England 10 Biggest Clubs:

1: Man United

2: Liverpool

3: Arsenal

big gap

4: Tottenham Hotspur

5: Everton

6: Chelsea

7: Aston Villa

8: Newcastle

9: Leeds

10 Manchester City
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« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2007, 10:14:41 AM »

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« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2007, 11:13:18 AM »

I remember someone telling me Leeds had 300,000 applications for tickets for last seasons playoff final.

Nems top ten looks about right.

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« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2007, 11:24:38 AM »

I think the notion of a 'big club' is something which can't really be tied down to things like turnover, fan base etc - it's a less tangible thing.

The best way I can describe it is this. You're a supporter of a small club that somehow manages to qualify for Europe. As you listen to the draw on the radio, your team's name is pulled out of the hat. As you hear who your team's opponents are, the more you go 'Ooooooh', the bigger the team is.
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« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2007, 11:56:10 AM »

This is a really interesting debate. i think that Man utd are the biggest club in england. They have pretty much everything at the moment. ie massive ground, massive fan base, recent domestic dominance etc etc etc.

Alot of other clubs are close like arsenal, liverpool.

there are always arguments as to who is a big club some say arsenal are not as they have never won the European cup/ champions league. Liverpool have not won a league title for 17 years.

I agree pretty much with Nemesis top 10 although its clubs like newcastle that I'm not sure if they should be. it was only before Keegan took charge about 12 years ago that they were getting 12,000 crowds, compare that to Leeds now who are in a similar situation to what newcastle were pre Keegan and they get far more. That what really pisses me off when i watch newcastle on TV and commentatores say things like "these fans deserve success" why do they?? whey do they deserve it more than Man city, Villa, or even that Shiite from N17?




PS although i do agree recently NUFC have become bigger before all you goerdies bite my head off 
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